wow it seems fifi is one of the lefty members who enjoy to
make the picture of the conserative american even worse than it is,
I really dont believe that a man is so stupid, or maybe he still
lives in the past (500 years ago)
I think that you are the stupid one and I’d rather live in the past that I can learn from than a future that doesn’t exist because of people like you!
interresting.
which past do you mean, and why doesent a future exist, cause of people like me?
wow it seems fifi is one of the lefty members who enjoy to
make the picture of the conserative american even worse than it is,
I really dont believe that a man is so stupid, or maybe he still
lives in the past (500 years ago)
I think that you are the stupid one and I’d rather live in the past that I can learn from than a future that doesn’t exist because of people like you!
interresting.
which past do you mean, and why doesent a future exist, cause of people like me?
To start with, you “assume” that I am a left winger when you don’t know anything about me, second, one can always learn from the past to make the future better. People from the past knew about respect and obviously, you don’t! Instead of calling people “stupid” and judging them, why don’t you take a look at yourself...of course, again, it takes balls!!!
You bet that I am fixed on balls!!! I can’t find any anymore…
What I miss about the good old time? I miss family gathering, not in front of TV, but talking, sharing. I miss when divorce was rare and family values strong. I miss when women would take care of their kids instead of working there ass off to get a career. I miss when kids were respecting their parents because they could. I miss soldiers going to war, knowing that the country as a whole was supporting them. I miss young people graduating instead of getting into drugs. I miss young girls being able to walk down the street without being scarred of rape. I miss when men were men, women were women, and kids were allowed to be kids. Yes, I miss all this!
You bet that I am fixed on balls!!! I can’t find any anymore…
What I miss about the good old time? I miss family gathering, not in front of TV, but talking, sharing. I miss when divorce was rare and family values strong. I miss when women would take care of their kids instead of working there ass off to get a career. I miss when kids were respecting their parents because they could. I miss soldiers going to war, knowing that the country as a whole was supporting them. I miss young people graduating instead of getting into drugs. I miss young girls being able to walk down the street without being scarred of rape. I miss when men were men, women were women, and kids were allowed to be kids. Yes, I miss all this!
Ok
family gathering not in front of tv is easy, throw out the television.
a lot of my friends have families, they are climbers, cyclists, none of their child is a tv junkie.
divorce was rare, cause the women were depending on their men, that has changed and thats fine.
In old times men could cheat their women like they want, that has changed.
My parents got divorced, cause my father had an affair with another woman, my mother also
worked like my father and it was much easier to live her own live with her own regular income.
Kids respecting theirt parents, well its the parents fault if they are not respected by their kids,
this was 100 years ago, 10 years ago and its also now.
supporting soldiers is ok, supporting the goverments depends on the war, yes for the war in afghanistan for the stupid war in iraq
absoluteley no.
Rapes have been happened since more than 1000 years, the difference is that rapists are much more often accused
today than like 40 years ago, it has been hard times for women, but thanks to emancipation, womens right
and an enlightened society its not so easy for rapists to get away, I hope you are not worried about this.
and the men are still men and the women are still women, at least in my country, i dont know
if this is also in your country.
I hear where you’re coming from, Fifi, but what you’re suggesting is so very politically incorrect, you’re not likely to get very many who will agree with you, at least publicly.
I hear where you’re coming from, Fifi, but what you’re suggesting is so very politically incorrect, you’re not likely to get very many who will agree with you, at least publicly.
Thanks for what you’re saying. To be honest with you, I don’t give a rat’s ass about being politically correct. I’m just trying to say how I feel and that’s called “freedom of speech”. “politically correct” never changed anything in this world, make people think does. Some people will never have the courage to stop and think, some will and they will be the one to make a difference, the others will be just left behind!
You bet that I am fixed on balls!!! I can’t find any anymore…
What I miss about the good old time? I miss family gathering, not in front of TV, but talking, sharing. I miss when divorce was rare and family values strong. I miss when women would take care of their kids instead of working there ass off to get a career. I miss when kids were respecting their parents because they could. I miss soldiers going to war, knowing that the country as a whole was supporting them. I miss young people graduating instead of getting into drugs. I miss young girls being able to walk down the street without being scarred of rape. I miss when men were men, women were women, and kids were allowed to be kids. Yes, I miss all this!
Ok
family gathering not in front of tv is easy, throw out the television.
a lot of my friends have families, they are climbers, cyclists, none of their child is a tv junkie.
divorce was rare, cause the women were depending on their men, that has changed and thats fine.
In old times men could cheat their women like they want, that has changed.
My parents got divorced, cause my father had an affair with another woman, my mother also
worked like my father and it was much easier to live her own live with her own regular income.
Kids respecting theirt parents, well its the parents fault if they are not respected by their kids,
this was 100 years ago, 10 years ago and its also now.
supporting soldiers is ok, supporting the goverments depends on the war, yes for the war in afghanistan for the stupid war in iraq
absoluteley no.
Rapes have been happened since more than 1000 years, the difference is that rapists are much more often accused
today than like 40 years ago, it has been hard times for women, but thanks to emancipation, womens right
and an enlightened society its not so easy for rapists to get away, I hope you are not worried about this.
and the men are still men and the women are still women, at least in my country, i dont know
if this is also in your country.
I am talking in general and you hide behind specific examples. You can’t deny the fact that things are getting worse as it goes. I’ve been divorced as well and my ex-husband was cheating on me and I don’t see how it was easier before, because women were staying home? I think it’s easier now because women are so busy doing everything but what they should do that they don’t have time to see what’s happening anymore. For myself, I am against divorce. I think that once you’ve made a commitment, you’ve got to stick with it. People get married today knowing that they can easily divorce. They don’t take time to get to know each other they just go to bed!
You really think that rapist get more accused today? Do you listen to the news? From what I know, you can be illegal in this country, kill because you’re drunk, rape kids and walk free.
I dont see that things get even worse, maybe in your country, but then i dont understand why you ve left goold old europe.
It is easier for a women who always worked and have their own income than women who always stayed at home, i know this,
cause i know a lot of women who has been divorced.
You are against divorce, nice.
but what shall a woman do when her husband beats and violates her?
going to bed is ok, but noone needs to marry, also if you have children you dont have to marry.
Yes I listen to the news and I speak again for europe, rape isnt a peccadillo anymore,
the same with sexual harassment, about 17 years ago a dumbass did this to my girlfriend,
until I had a little discussion with him.
Today sexual harassment is absoluteley taboo, cause companies can get sued very easy if they
dont prevent it.
so i dont think times got worse.
I am talking in general and you hide behind specific examples. You can’t deny the fact that things are getting worse as it goes. I’ve been divorced as well and my ex-husband was cheating on me and I don’t see how it was easier before, because women were staying home? I think it’s easier now because women are so busy doing everything but what they should do that they don’t have time to see what’s happening anymore. For myself, I am against divorce. I think that once you’ve made a commitment, you’ve got to stick with it. People get married today knowing that they can easily divorce. They don’t take time to get to know each other they just go to bed!
You really think that rapist get more accused today? Do you listen to the news? From what I know, you can be illegal in this country, kill because you’re drunk, rape kids and walk free.
wow it seems fifi is one of the lefty members who enjoy to
make the picture of the conserative american even worse than it is,
I really dont believe that a man is so stupid, or maybe he still
lives in the past (500 years ago)
Actually, that would be Liberal men Ossi. Conservatives are still beating their wives and kids. :P
I still have a pair FiFi, I just have my own problems to worry about.
After what I have been through, I am not afraid of much.
You bet that I am fixed on balls!!! I can’t find any anymore…
What I miss about the good old time? I miss family gathering, not in front of TV, but talking, sharing. I miss when divorce was rare and family values strong. I miss when women would take care of their kids instead of working there ass off to get a career. I miss when kids were respecting their parents because they could. I miss soldiers going to war, knowing that the country as a whole was supporting them. I miss young people graduating instead of getting into drugs. I miss young girls being able to walk down the street without being scarred of rape. I miss when men were men, women were women, and kids were allowed to be kids. Yes, I miss all this!
Ossi pretty much summed it up. I’d add that it seems that you are annoyed by the fact that women these days have a choice but invariably choose to have a career or to juggle a family and a career. As opposed to rejecting those options and continuing to work only in the kitchen and bedroom.
Also, some women don’t have a choice but to work. More families are less able to get by with only one income. In those cases, there is no choice being exercised.
It’s funny how you guys deviated the subject on women when I was talking about men! Do you have a problem talking about yourself?
Your whole premise seems to be based on men not being ‘real men’ because they don’t exert some inherent dominance and one of the examples you gave was that they should be putting women in their place. I think the rest of us in this thread are trying to point out that we’ve evolved to a point whereby we recognise that although men may be physically stronger on the whole, they don’t actually have an inherent right to be dominant over women in any way shape or form.
It’s funny how you guys deviated the subject on women when I was talking about men! Do you have a problem talking about yourself?
Your whole premise seems to be based on men not being ‘real men’ because they don’t exert some inherent dominance and one of the examples you gave was that they should be putting women in their place. I think the rest of us in this thread are trying to point out that we’ve evolved to a point whereby we recognise that although men may be physically stronger on the whole, they don’t actually have an inherent right to be dominant over women in any way shape or form.
God you’re so obtuse!!! I am not talking about being dominant over women (my husband wouldn’t have a chance!), I am talking about protecting women, loving them etc. And again, you just focus on a small point. I talked more about the country, pride, kids etc. So what’s your problem???
