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Posted: 12 December 2006 01:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 61 ]
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power2thepeaceful - 08 December 2006 01:35 PM

As it is innocent Iraqi people that pay for the IMMORAL decision to go to War with their loves, so it is innocent civilians of the countries waging War in their name that will pay via the repercussions.

I know! That is so true! And what about the citizens of countries that aren’t necessarily at war in Iraq but allow the US military to operate bases/transport troops & weapons through? What about THOSE people? Their countries are selling them out for oil just as much as the countries who are actually fighting the war, but they aren’t even being honest about it with their own people! Like, take Ireland for example… I mean, why should US troops be going through there?? I mean, seriously, it’s like practically as bad as what the americans are doing in Iraq.

I am an American, I’ve never even been to Ireland, but I am completely outraged at the complicitousness of the Irish govt in the Iraq war.... they should be ashamed!

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Posted: 13 December 2006 02:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 62 ]
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American_dream_denial - 03 March 2006 09:31 PM

What is the fascination with Michael Moore and what exactly has he done wrong?- to open people’s eyes about the bush administration, who i might add are single handily destroying the great nation of America.

Ok the guy is egotistical to a certain degree, but he certainly is no bigger arsehole than bush and his cronies. Didn’t bowling for columbine open people’s eyes about American society, asking questions that needed to be asked, along with Fahrenheit t 9/11.

I wouldn’t be wasting my time nit-picking at some guy who makes documentaries, id spend my time looking at the American government who have made countless, unforgivable crimes against man and nature, would you like a list?

http://www.alternet.org/story/32382/?ref=BuckFush

I admire you for taking on the hordes of hatred here at this forum, but you will get nowhere; I already tried 2 years ago. They hate for hate’s sake; no reason, no goal.

The hatred of the gunnuts was unleashed at Moore when he attacked their frickin’ stupid precious guns in “Bowling for Columbine”, and the Faux News and Rove whipped them into a frenzy by fomenting hatred and divisiveness in this country much like the Nazis did with the brown shirted stormtroopers in Germany in 1932.. They are using them to get into power and don’t really care about these guys, yet they honestly believe these guys living in these mansions really care about them. Laugh. Once Hitler was done with the SA he destroyed them all, they were a means to an end, same thing with these gun-loving, NASCAR-watchin’, Budweiser drinking Americans.

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Posted: 13 December 2006 02:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 63 ]
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ILoveAmerica - 13 December 2006 02:36 PM

American_dream_denial - 03 March 2006 09:31 PM
What is the fascination with Michael Moore and what exactly has he done wrong?- to open people’s eyes about the bush administration, who i might add are single handily destroying the great nation of America.

Ok the guy is egotistical to a certain degree, but he certainly is no bigger arsehole than bush and his cronies. Didn’t bowling for columbine open people’s eyes about American society, asking questions that needed to be asked, along with Fahrenheit t 9/11.

I wouldn’t be wasting my time nit-picking at some guy who makes documentaries, id spend my time looking at the American government who have made countless, unforgivable crimes against man and nature, would you like a list?

http://www.alternet.org/story/32382/?ref=BuckFush

I admire you for taking on the hordes of hatred here at this forum, but you will get nowhere; I already tried 2 years ago. They hate for hate’s sake; no reason, no goal.

The hatred of the gunnuts was unleashed at Moore when he attacked their frickin’ stupid precious guns in “Bowling for Columbine”, and the Faux News and Rove whipped them into a frenzy by fomenting hatred and divisiveness in this country much like the Nazis did with the brown shirted stormtroopers in Germany in 1932.. They are using them to get into power and don’t really care about these guys, yet they honestly believe these guys living in these mansions really care about them. Laugh. Once Hitler was done with the SA he destroyed them all, they were a means to an end, same thing with these gun-loving, NASCAR-watchin’, Budweiser drinking Americans.

ILA, you sicken me.  Really, you do.  You point fingers and wag your sepid tongue, unable to see the hatred YOU YOURSELF DISPENSE.
I’m appalled.  You’re really ignorant of your own hatred.  Think about it, ILA.  Stop and take a look in the mirror.

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Posted: 13 December 2006 04:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 64 ]
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That was pretty damn disgusting.  ILA creates an imaginary universe parallel to Nazi Germany, puts us in it so he can hate us, laughs at the idea of us being destroyed like the SA, then claims we are the hateful ones.  It’s downright delusional.

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Posted: 13 December 2006 04:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 65 ]
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Sethery - 13 December 2006 04:11 PM

That was pretty damn disgusting. ILA creates an imaginary universe parallel to Nazi Germany, puts us in it so he can hate us, laughs at the idea of us being destroyed like the SA, then claims we are the hateful ones. It’s downright delusional.

Thats the template. Left creates ‘right wing’ and uses it as a bogyman to explain why utopia never arrives… its all because of the [evil] right wing.... They then project all their faults onto it and ‘fight’ it…

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Posted: 13 December 2006 05:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 66 ]
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ILoveAmerica - 13 December 2006 02:36 PM

American_dream_denial - 03 March 2006 09:31 PM
What is the fascination with Michael Moore and what exactly has he done wrong?- to open people’s eyes about the bush administration, who i might add are single handily destroying the great nation of America.

Ok the guy is egotistical to a certain degree, but he certainly is no bigger arsehole than bush and his cronies. Didn’t bowling for columbine open people’s eyes about American society, asking questions that needed to be asked, along with Fahrenheit t 9/11.

I wouldn’t be wasting my time nit-picking at some guy who makes documentaries, id spend my time looking at the American government who have made countless, unforgivable crimes against man and nature, would you like a list?

http://www.alternet.org/story/32382/?ref=BuckFush

I admire you for taking on the hordes of hatred here at this forum, but you will get nowhere; I already tried 2 years ago. They hate for hate’s sake; no reason, no goal.

The hatred of the gunnuts was unleashed at Moore when he attacked their frickin’ stupid precious guns in “Bowling for Columbine”, and the Faux News and Rove whipped them into a frenzy by fomenting hatred and divisiveness in this country much like the Nazis did with the brown shirted stormtroopers in Germany in 1932.. They are using them to get into power and don’t really care about these guys, yet they honestly believe these guys living in these mansions really care about them. Laugh. Once Hitler was done with the SA he destroyed them all, they were a means to an end, same thing with these gun-loving, NASCAR-watchin’, Budweiser drinking Americans.

The problem here is this: BFC has many problems with presentation and misleading people.  Have you looked at the 2nd Amendment?  There’s a reason for that amendment in the Bill of Rights.  Think back to the time of 1776 when our ancestors were facing off against British forces.  Fast forward to today.  Combine the Patriot Act, Real ID Act, Military Commissions Act, etc… with anti-gun legislation and you have the potential for total tyranny.

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Posted: 13 December 2006 06:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 67 ]
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May I be the first to congratulate th2techdude for managing to post on a current thread ;)

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Posted: 13 December 2006 08:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 68 ]
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Night - 13 December 2006 06:58 PM

May I be the first to congratulate th2techdude for managing to post on a current thread ;)

Hey, if it is marked as unread, I read it… and respond… lol!  Maybe it’s showing up differently on my screen, but oh well..... then again, it could have something to do with Finals Week (that oh so fun time of the year when I have to bang my head just to fix a Java final.... it’s one of the few languages that’s brought me to tears).

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Posted: 14 December 2006 07:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 69 ]
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I did include a smily wink to show I wasn’t being serious :P

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Posted: 21 December 2006 02:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 70 ]
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Michael, if you were posting photos of dead women and children to make your point about about Bush, we may not even be in this situation with Iraq if Clinton hadn’t ignored Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda for eight years like he did. Or was Clinton’s playing the saxaphone and having rock stars appear at his inaugeration more important than protecting our country?
The war in Iraq isn’t going well, but as someone who’s not totally for it but not totally against it as well, it IS part of the war on terror. Maybe you’re afraid of standing up to Al-Qaeda and BIn Laden Michael, which is exactly what Bin Laden wants and why Bin Laden laughs at America-people like you who are afraid to stand up to him but won’t admit it. Instead you hide that fear by screaming, “This war is wrong!”
What about the 3,000 people that Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden murdered? DO you care about them, their families and what they all went through that day in Septmber 2001 or do you just want to further your own personal agenda about getting another president that will ignore Al-Qaeda, ignore Bin Laden, ignore intelligence about further terrorist attacks, because after all, playing the saxaphone and having rock stars appear at your inaugeration is just “so much cooler, dude!”

Now before I hear the usual, “Another HHH rant” stuff from the Anti-HHH club, it’s a legitimate question that I would just like an answer from Michael about.
And yes, I do bring 9-11 up alot on this site...well guess what, I’m going to keep bringing it up alot, I’m not going to “just forget about it” as alot of war-on-terror phobics would like us all to.

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Posted: 21 December 2006 05:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 71 ]
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So why didn’t we go after bin Laden first and foremost?

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Posted: 21 December 2006 11:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 72 ]
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Alot of people also tend to forget that Bush initially, before we even went into Afghanistan(For all the “peaceful solution” folks out there) asked Al Qaeda to turn Bin Laden over about 3 or 4 times before we finally went in in late 2001.
And the war phobics also keep screaming, “We should be over in Afghanistan!” HE-LLO, we are still in Afghanistan, and we have rounded up many of Al-Qaeda’s right hand leaders.
Bill Maher told Bill O’Reilly in an interview, “But Al-Qaeda’s still plotting to attack us and Condaleeza Rice said we don’t really know how many of Al-Qaeda’s leaders we’ve gotten.”
So Maher, I guess it doesn’t mean anything that we’ve arrested so many Al-Qaeda top operatives huh. Bill Clinton arrested so many more, didn’t he.  Again, if Bill Clinton had been doing this we wouldn’t be having such a hard time now. If Bush started playing the saxaphone and appearing with rock stars I guess you and Maher would like Bush better.

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Posted: 23 December 2006 05:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 73 ]
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Heheheh.  Point completely missed… oh well.  Let me try again.

Instead of going to Iraq, why did not focus completely on capturing bin Laden first and foremost if he was responsible for 9/11?

If Bush started playing the saxaphone and appearing with rock stars I guess you and Maher would like Bush better.

Wrong.  Let me explain it to you.  I operate outside the parameters of left wing/right wing.  Clinton did some things that were very harmful to this country, and he should have been impeached and tried for treason for those actions (unfortunately, Monica the Red Herring Lewinsky got in the way...).  Don’t assume that I support Democrats, because I do not.  They only want to get back into power… nothing more, nothing less.

And btw, there were people who tried to give information to this country concerning bin Laden before 9/11.  They were blown off…

http://www.drudgereport.com/matt91h.htm

Sounds quite suspicious to me.  And remember when Clinton bombed what turned out to be an aspirin factory?  That will hopefully put to rest any potential assumptions that I am a fan of Clinton.

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Posted: 28 December 2006 05:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 74 ]
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I was actually directing my last post again at Michael, 2Tech, when I made the inference to “You and Maher”. Sorry...I should have been more specific.
You made some great points, 2Tech.
I am fully aware that Bush was given information as well before September 11 in the eight months before that day which he should have acted upon. But I am so f’n sick and tired of hearing Bush this, Bush that(NOT from you, 2Tech) from every liberal and their mama while seeming to ignore what a catastrophic role Clinton played in not stopping Bin Laden for eight years...Not only the WTC bombing occured during his term but what about the U.S, interests overseas that were atacked continuously by Al-Qaeda.
And I’m also so fed up with liberals who seem to forget(no, ignore is more like it) it was Bush who liberated Afghanistan, it was Bush who sent food and aid to residents in Afghanistan while the Afghan conflict was occuring in late 2001. And more importantly, liberals seem to care less that it was Bush who had us(FINALLY since someone else chose not to do it years earlier) invade Afghanistan and destroy most of Bin Laden’s Al-Qaeda training camps.
So Bill Maher(out of respect to the administrator of this site I will only call Bill maher by his name and not the multiple things he should be called) wants to whine that Condaleeza Rice doesn’t know the exact number of Al-Qaeda’s top leaders we’ve arrested and taken into custody?
Here’s an idea, Maher: Give me the number of Al-Qaeda operatives Bill Clinton rounded up compared to the number we’ve taken into custody under Bush and then we’ll see who is or was more concerned about Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden.

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Posted: 28 December 2006 06:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 75 ]
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Maybe you’re afraid of standing up to Al-Qaeda and BIn Laden Michael, which is exactly what Bin Laden wants and why Bin Laden laughs at America-people like you who are afraid to stand up to him but won’t admit it. Instead you hide that fear by screaming, “This war is wrong!”
What about the 3,000 people that Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden murdered? DO you care about them, their families and what they all went through that day in Septmber 2001 or do you just want to further your own personal agenda about getting another president that will ignore Al-Qaeda, ignore Bin Laden, ignore intelligence about further terrorist attacks, because after all, playing the saxaphone and having rock stars appear at your inaugeration is just “so much cooler, dude!”

What did any of that have to do with Iraq?

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