I believe the IRA guys used to regularly accidently blow themselves up because their bombs were poorly made. They’d be on the way to their target and suddenly BOOM.
The moderate Muslim voice doesn’t get to appear in newspapers Soul.
No, it just means that the average Muslim saying they don’t agree with terrorism doesn’t sell newspapers. Certainly not as much as evil hook-handed raving loony-tunes clerics. See “The Sun”, the UK’s ‘favourite newspaper’. Perfect example.
No, it just means that the average Muslim saying they don’t agree with terrorism doesn’t sell newspapers. Certainly not as much as evil hook-handed raving loony-tunes clerics. See “The Sun”, the UK’s ‘favourite newspaper’. Perfect example.
or, say, al jazeera. which sells a lot of copy. any given day, they offer headlines that duplicate the arguments of the Thinking Man.
“nagasaki and hiroshima: the worst terror attacks”
“is terror a rwo-side mirror?”
“The u.s., its allies and israel must admit they have robbed and murdered innocent people”
“U.S. warns countries against doing business with Iran”
Almighty Allah has prohibited illegal sexual intercourse and homosexuality and all means that lead to either of them. Moreover, Islam emphatically forbids this deed [homosexual sex] and prescribes a severe punishment for it in this world and the next. How could it be otherwise, when the Prophet of Islam (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “Whoever you find committing the sin of the people of Lut, kill them, both the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.” (At-Tirmidhi: 1376)
errrr, you’ll have to work that one out with one another in a mutual, loving manner
What the fuck does illegal sexual intercourse and homosexuality have to do with this thread ?
Go off and start your own one with Soul.
gee i thought the topic was “So Muslims aren’t condemning terror?” i don’t see their (arguably) most popular newsdesk - al-jazeera - denouncing terrorism anywhere, anyhow. instead they compare islamic terror to hiroshima. millions read this every day.
And why don’t you provide links to your quotes, as required by the rules ?
can’t spell al-jazeera, huh? thats some crazy language they got there, eh. but, here ya go.
Qatari Crown Prince banned from G.A.Y nightclub
8/2/2005 7:48:00 AM GMT
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Crown Prince of Qatar
Three Qatari’s, including 25 year old Crown Prince Tameem Bin Hamad Al-Thani, involved in drunken and disorderly behavior have been banned from joining the G.A.Y (Good As You) event in one of London’s biggest night clubs.
According to the Qatari based website, Islamonline.net, the Prince who was educated in the UK spends most summers in London and was involved in a fight during which blows were exchanged with local youths.
“Prince Tameem and his partner were not charged, however, they will be banned from visiting this club for 30 days”, authorities said. The exclusion order, issued by the police force in London will keep them out of the club for up to a month.
According to police, Heard Michael 30 years old was also arrested on a simple assault charge for his alleged role in this fight. Scholars of Islamonline.net condemned the actions quoting religious text:
“Almighty Allah has prohibited illegal sexual intercourse and homosexuality and all means that lead to either of them. Moreover, Islam emphatically forbids this deed [homosexual sex] and prescribes a severe punishment for it in this world and the next. How could it be otherwise, when the Prophet of Islam (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “Whoever you find committing the sin of the people of Lut, kill them, both the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.” (At-Tirmidhi: 1376)
The eminent Qatari based scholar Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi also quoted:
“The scholars of Islam, such as Malik, Ash-Shafi`i, Ahmad and Ishaaq said that (the person guilty of this crime) should be stoned, whether he is married or unmarried.”
am i reading too much into this or is someone calling tameem bin hamad al-thani a fag, (thanks to england) who should be excecuted? why? could it be that qatar somehow US friendly, and the US and the brits have corrupted him?
The world faces one threat
7/30/2005 9:18:00 AM GMT
With recent attacks on London and then Egypt, in which dozens of innocent civilians lost their lives, it seems that the world is facing one threat, the threat of “terrorism”, it is not coming from certain religion or race, nor is it targeting certain religion or race.
An Arab country has been attacked same way a Western country was.
Just as London attacks, the victims of Sharm al-Sheikh bombings were innocent people of various nationalities and different religions.
Arabic newspapers unequivocally condemned both attacks, and called for a united response to combat “terrorism”.
The Arab News said that the attackers think that “ordinary Egyptians, like ordinary Londoners, are disposable.
“Theirs is not just a war against the Egyptian economy and government, it is a war against the entire Egyptian people, as it is against all the people of Britain, of Spain, of Lebanon, of Iraq, of Indonesia, of the U.S. - of everywhere. The terrorist is at war with the entire world,” the Saudi-based newspaper added.
Egypt-owned Al-Akhbar newspaper said that the “coward barbarian attack that targeted tourists in the Sharm el-Sheikh resort will give Egypt [the right] to combat terrorism any way, anywhere…
It added that fighting “terrorism surely requires the gathering of all international efforts to uproot it”, especially after the July 7 attacks in London.
Al-Akhbar also said that it supports “President Hosni Mubarak’s suggestion of an international conference on terrorism”, adding that such a conference “would help confront that devil that threatens innocent victims.”
In Kuwait, the prominent journalist, Ahmed al-Jarallah, wrote in The Arab Times that Mubarak has been urging the “superpower” nations to form an alliance against “terrorism” since the early 90’s.
Mubarak also warned world leaders that “terrorism will spread into their territories if they didn’t form such an alliance to fight this menace”, Jarallah said.
lets check out those last two paragraphs again. “superpowers”, “alliance”, root out terrorists, lest terror spread. as always its up the “superpowers”.
i recall how those super nations clamoured to help us in afghanistan. to this day they’re been unwavering in their support for the afghanis. sure. yep. and all the little, benign countries are inviting superpowers to come and clean house.
and how those superpowers who were otherwise sick or on vacation when the going got tough are offering to seal the borders of iraq so that its proud people can finally form a just society without terrorist intervention or influence- wow.
Following the London bombs, the word on most commentators lips has been denial.
The bombings have thrown a merciless spotlight on the Muslim community, with all and sundry seeking not just an immediate apology but for Muslims to engage in a battle to confront the ‘extremists’ and in Tony Blair’s words their ’evil ideology‘.
No matter what decade or century we are in, the western governments always seem to find a new reason for interfering in the Muslim world.
These are not cases of a few rotten apples but a more structural problem involving dehumanisation and barbarisation, denial merely overlooks the mounting evidence of a sick and degenerate culture that has been engendered by western leaders and which has now become ubiquitous. Of course there are no calls to examine some of the secular military ‘madrassahs’ these American and British soldiers have graduated from, or any investigations in trying to understand what causes some western soldiers to mete out such degrading, brutal and often lethal abuse.
Denial is not confined to foreign policy, a few days after the London bombings a 14 year old boy in Manchester was charged with 7 rapes of four young girls aged between 7 and 10 in a local park. Britain’s rapists are getting younger and younger, yet the liberal consensus still believes society’s permissive attitude to sex and its ubiquitous nature in popular culture have nothing to do with the increasing rise of sexual crime. Denial I think so! Or what links the pensions time bomb, the fertility time bomb, an ageing population, increasing divorce rates, yobbish behaviour and binge drinking. If you believe the liberal consensus, then nothing. They are individual problems with individual solutions all disconnected from one another, another case of complete denial.
Yet the collapse of the family unit, the breakdown of the institution of marriage, the prioritisation of wealth and materialism over having children, a culture of lost respect for elders, growing levels of adultery and a hedonistic attitude towards sex, consumerism and alcohol are symptoms of a more worrying degradation and depredation of the glue that should hold societies together. As Melanie Philips, a prominent British commentator recently wrote; ‘our hedonistic culture appears to have lost any sense of its collective and long-term interests. Instead too many young women and men live in this affluent consumer society as if there is no tomorrow- and by doing so are helping ensure that that is precisely what is increasingly coming to pass.’
The key point surrounding denial is that sometimes the people most close to the issue are the least able to see what is wrong.
As Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, the famous German poet and novelist stated ‘Ich bin der Geist der stets verneint.’ Translated this means ‘I am the spirit that always denies‘, an apt comment for our current plight.
bummer - looks like they hate liberals too.
but see - the jihadists would never, ever, ever, never, use, say nuclear weapons agianst the infidel, even if they had any. it says so right here:
Proud of the success of its nuclear attacks in Japan, the U.S. threatened to drop atomic weapons on more than 20 occasions in the 1950s and 1960s. But it backed off when the USSR developed enough nuclear-armed missiles to enter the era of “mutually assured destruction”, and the U.S. leaders’ feared that their use of atomic arms would lead to a huge anti-U.S. political revolt by ordinary people around the world.
i.e. the ussr never threatened anyone, nor will iran or north korea. ever. but if, if they ever did, it would be in response to a threat from the US.
However, the U.S.’s policy of nuclear terror remains intact. It refuses to rule out the use of nuclear arms in a conflict. Its latest Nuclear Posture Review underlines the use of nuclear weapons against non-nuclear “rogue states” and it is working on a new generation of ‘battlefield” atomic arms.
Fear of the political backlash remains the main restraint upon the atomaniacs in the United States. On the 60th anniversary of the worst terror attacks in history, the useful action that peace-loving people can take is to strengthen that fear and revive it in the minds of the U.S. leaders, and recommit themselves to defeating U.S.’s “wars of terror” in Afghanistan and Iraq.
...by using nukes if need be.
repeat it until it sticks:
the useful action that peace-loving people can take is to… recommit themselves to defeating U.S.’s “wars of terror” in Afghanistan and Iraq
the useful action that peace-loving people can take is to… recommit themselves to defeating U.S.’s “wars of terror” in Afghanistan and Iraq
the useful action that peace-loving people can take is to… recommit themselves to defeating U.S.’s “wars of terror” in Afghanistan and Iraq
the useful action that peace-loving people can take is to… recommit themselves to defeating U.S.’s “wars of terror” in Afghanistan and Iraq
the useful action that peace-loving people can take is to… recommit themselves to defeating U.S.’s “wars of terror” in Afghanistan and Iraq
Liberals are quick to ‘speak for’ the terrorists, and project many liberal beefs into the mouths of the terrorists. This conveniently hides the fact that liberal attitudes exported by the west are one of the biggest beefs the terrorists rally against.
Liberals are quick to ‘speak for’ the terrorists, and project many liberal beefs into the mouths of the terrorists. This conveniently hides the fact that liberal attitudes exported by the west are one of the biggest beefs the terrorists rally against.
yep. theres plenty of denial in their camp; which is nothing new, but the libs maintain that one could work these issues out with good old dialogue.
the liberal consensus still believes society’s permissive attitude to sex and its ubiquitous nature in popular culture have nothing to do with the increasing rise of sexual crime. Denial I think so! Or what links the pensions time bomb, the fertility time bomb, an ageing population, increasing divorce rates, yobbish behaviour and binge drinking. If you believe the liberal consensus, then nothing. They are individual problems with individual solutions all disconnected from one another, another case of complete denial.
Yet the collapse of the family unit, the breakdown of the institution of marriage, the prioritisation of wealth and materialism over having children, a culture of lost respect for elders, growing levels of adultery and a hedonistic attitude towards sex, consumerism and alcohol are symptoms of a more worrying degradation and depredation of the glue that should hold societies together.
again it looks worse for liberals than for terrorists under islam.
al jazeera has moved the “atom bombs worst terror attack ever” back to the top of their webpage, above the one decrying “muslims worldwide condemn islamic terror”. oh, wait. they haven’t posted that one yet.
