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Posted: 20 May 2007 05:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 46 ]
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Applepie - 20 May 2007 05:37 PM

But these are facts. And we have a contradiction. Here’s someone who spends his waking hours posting “facts’” attacking one person. Then when facts about him come out, he’s a poor, downtrodden little guy who’s being abused. Give us all a break.

Until you can explain how exploiting an anonymous donation for publicity is beyond reproach, give us a break.

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Posted: 20 May 2007 05:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 47 ]
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Show me where JimK acted shameful and pitiable.  He’s upset that a supposedly aonymous donation was actually exploited for publicity by the donor.  Can’t say I blame him.  Now, show me this compassion that leftwingers claim is their native domain.

Oh, c’mon. The plea was for compassion for “the little guy.” JimK has been loudly badmouthing and baiting Moore for years. I really don’t think “little guy” is a synonym for “loudmouth blowhard,” but maybe I’m just not conservative enough.

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Posted: 20 May 2007 05:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 48 ]
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Applepie - 20 May 2007 05:43 PM

Show me where JimK acted shameful and pitiable.  He’s upset that a supposedly aonymous donation was actually exploited for publicity by the donor.  Can’t say I blame him.  Now, show me this compassion that leftwingers claim is their native domain.

Oh, c’mon. The plea was for compassion for “the little guy.” JimK has been loudly badmouthing and baiting Moore for years. I really don’t think “little guy” is a synonym for “loudmouth blowhard,” but maybe I’m just not conservative enough.

So then, he wasn’t shameful and pitiable.  Thanks for helping make that clear.

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Posted: 20 May 2007 05:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 49 ]
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Until you can explain how exploiting an anonymous donation for publicity is beyond reproach, give us a break.

Then just consider it a $12,000 business investment. Moore isn’t bragging about comparssion, last I looked; he was just using it as an illustration of problems with the system, and irrational attitudes about it.

Don’t you believe in free enterprise capitalism? And this was an investment that helped cure an ill woman. Would you rather she didn’t get treatment?

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Posted: 20 May 2007 05:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 50 ]
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So then, he wasn’t shameful and pitiable.  Thanks for helping make that clear.

“Pitiable” means deserving of pity by others. What I criticized was self pity, when he was describing himself as a downdrodden little guy, the kind of victim that liberals were supposed to feel sorry for. There’s no reason for anyone to feel sorry for someone who already feels so sorry for himself.

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Posted: 20 May 2007 05:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 51 ]
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Applepie - 20 May 2007 05:46 PM

Until you can explain how exploiting an anonymous donation for publicity is beyond reproach, give us a break.

Then just consider it a $12,000 business investment. Moore isn’t bragging about comparssion, last I looked; he was just using it as an illustration of problems with the system, and irrational attitudes about it.

You’re telling me to consider Moore’s contribution something other than what he himself claimed it was?  We can justify all sorts of lobbying practies with this line of thinking.

Don’t you believe in free enterprise capitalism? And this was an investment that helped cure an ill woman. Would you rather she didn’t get treatment?

I do believe in free enterprise capitalism.  That’s why I haven’t claimed that Moore should be arrested for donating.  But your red herring doesn’t justify LYING about making an ANONYMOUS donation out of GENEROSITY.

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Posted: 20 May 2007 05:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 52 ]
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Applepie - 20 May 2007 05:49 PM

So then, he wasn’t shameful and pitiable.  Thanks for helping make that clear.

“Pitiable” means deserving of pity by others. What I criticized was self pity, when he was describing himself as a downdrodden little guy, the kind of victim that liberals were supposed to feel sorry for. There’s no reason for anyone to feel sorry for someone who already feels so sorry for himself.

Fine.  Then show me exactly where he described himself thusly.

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Posted: 20 May 2007 05:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 53 ]
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I had the impression that it was JimK himself asking for compassion for the little guy, but reviewing it wasn’t - not in so many words. But it still seems to be the stance. Again: his wife got treatment, his website’s getting hits. What’s his beef?

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Posted: 20 May 2007 06:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 54 ]
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Applepie - 20 May 2007 05:57 PM

He said, where’s the compassion for the little guy? That wasn’t casting himself as a compassion-worthy little guy?

Show me you’ve actually read this site.  Show me where he said that, like I originally asked you to.

And while you’re at it, try again to justify exploiting an anonymous donation for publicity.  You’re not the only one allowed to expect their questions be answered around here.

EDIT:  This was begun before you updated your post.

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Posted: 20 May 2007 06:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 55 ]
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Applepie - 20 May 2007 05:57 PM

I had the impression that it was JimK himself asking for compassion for the little guy, but reviewing it wasn’t - not in so many words. But it still seems to be the stance. Again: his wife got treatment, his website’s getting hits. What’s his beef?

You got caught out with your edit (I’m due to be too, as I edit too much). Something to be aware of.

What’s his beef?

HE AND HIS SICK WIFE WERE CYNICALLY EXPLOITED. I’m not sure how you can’t see that?

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Posted: 20 May 2007 06:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 56 ]
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Applepie - 20 May 2007 05:57 PM

I had the impression that it was JimK himself asking for compassion for the little guy, but reviewing it wasn’t - not in so many words. But it still seems to be the stance. Again: his wife got treatment, his website’s getting hits. What’s his beef?

Thank you for at least looking for information yourself.  There’s been a serious shortage of new people willing to do that.  But now you’re getting all abstract in order to try to maintain your point.  I have been asking you very concrete questions about how to justify exploiting an anonymous donation for publicity.  Your only answer so far has been to think of it as something else.

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Posted: 20 May 2007 06:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 57 ]
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Sethery - 20 May 2007 05:52 PM

You’re telling me to consider Moore’s contribution something other than what he himself claimed it was?  We can justify all sorts of lobbying practies with this line of thinking.

Claimed when? Claimed where? Claimed how? As far as lobbying, I wasn’t aware JimK held elective office.

I do believe in free enterprise capitalism.  That’s why I haven’t claimed that Moore should be arrested for donating.

Arrested for donating? For the crime of donating?? What are you talking about?

But your red herring doesn’t justify LYING about making an ANONYMOUS donation out of GENEROSITY.

Please substantiate the lie. Moore said “I am making this donation totally out of the goodness of my heart and would never use it in the movie?”

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Posted: 20 May 2007 06:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 58 ]
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HE AND HIS SICK WIFE WERE CYNICALLY EXPLOITED. I’m not sure how you can’t see that?

They were included in a documentary about shortcomings in the American healthcare system. This is not “exploitation,” it is journalism. Again, perhaps you’d prefer that Mrs. JimK not have gotten treatment.

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Posted: 20 May 2007 06:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 59 ]
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Applepie - 20 May 2007 06:10 PM

Sethery - 20 May 2007 05:52 PM
You’re telling me to consider Moore’s contribution something other than what he himself claimed it was?  We can justify all sorts of lobbying practies with this line of thinking.

Claimed when? Claimed where? Claimed how? As far as lobbying, I wasn’t aware JimK held elective office.

It was offered to JimK as an anonymous donation.  The lobbying statement referred to your, “just consider it...” line of thinking.  You can justify anything with, “just consider it...”

I do believe in free enterprise capitalism.  That’s why I haven’t claimed that Moore should be arrested for donating.

Arrested for donating? For the crime of donating?? What are you talking about?

If I didn’t believe in free enterprise, I wouldn’t believe that Moore could do with his money whatever he liked.  I should stop trying to answer your more asinine questions, because you seem to forget that you asked them.

But your red herring doesn’t justify LYING about making an ANONYMOUS donation out of GENEROSITY.

Please substantiate the lie. Moore said “I am making this donation totally out of the goodness of my heart and would never use it in the movie?”

*sigh* See above.  And above that.  Exponentiated to infinity.

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Posted: 20 May 2007 06:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 60 ]
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Applepie - 20 May 2007 06:12 PM

HE AND HIS SICK WIFE WERE CYNICALLY EXPLOITED. I’m not sure how you can’t see that?

They were included in a documentary about shortcomings in the American healthcare system. This is not “exploitation,” it is journalism. Again, perhaps you’d prefer that Mrs. JimK not have gotten treatment.

You are separating the donation and the K’s inclusion in the documentary.  From everything we’ve read, they are inextricably linked.

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