Look. Moore’s not exactly Hitler. He even seems to be a good guy, overall, even though he stretches the truth sometimes to make political points. If he was a neo-nazi I would understand people demanding JimK to return the money. But now he isn’t. Moore did a good deed, Jim thanked Moore. Move on already. Why is this even a story?
You know the guy consistently comes down against liberal democracies when they’re in conflict with violent totalitarian movements and governments… right or left…
I’m not sure that he really is a cuddly nice guy. He’s an old school socialist IMO who talks about revolution and stuff. Wouldn’t turn my back on him in civil disturbance.... or take his help / money…
The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not “insurgents” or “terrorists” or “The Enemy.” They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow—and they will win.
Yeah, if ‘winning’ means blowing up enough civilians to make us want to give up.... fascist…
Perhaps he should have specified “anonymous donations”, so we’re playing in, you know, the same ballpark.
Then I agree, noone would turn down an anonymous donation. Although JimK did mention he was pretty sure it was Moore. he even traced it to a number of banks very near Moores office.
But he still took it.
So the question I ask is would the example I listed have returned the money after finding out the source of the “anonymous” donation?
Anopther question I ask. How can you expect to be taken seriously in your critisism of Moore when you have taken money from him and won’t repay it?
If John Kerry had recieved an anonymous donation to his struggling campaign, and later found out it was from Hamas, and decided not to repay it.....this board, and most of America would be ALL OVER HIM!
Now I admit Kerry is a bad example with his ketchup billions. But you get my drift.
If John Kerry had recieved an anonymous donation to his struggling campaign, and later found out it was from Hamas, and decided not to repay it.....this board, and most of America would be ALL OVER HIM!
Now I admit Kerry is a bad example with his ketchup billions. But you get my drift.
Dumbass example.
John Kerry was running for President...of the United States. There’s all kinds of rules and regulations for accepting campaign donations, one of which is no candidate may accept donations from Foreign Nationals.
The Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA) prohibits any foreign national from contributing, donating or spending funds in connection with any federal, state, or local election in the United States, either directly or indirectly. It is also unlawful to help foreign nationals violate that ban or to solicit, receive or accept contributions or donations from them. Persons who knowingly and willfully engage in these activities may be subject to fines and/or imprisonment.
Who is a Foreign National?
The following groups and individuals are considered “foreign nationals” and are, therefore, subject to the prohibition:
* Foreign governments;
* Foreign political parties;
* Foreign corporations;
* Foreign associations;
* Foreign partnerships;
* Individuals with foreign citizenship; and
* Immigrants who do not have a “green card.”
Hamas would fall under those prohibitions, and thus it would be illegal for Kerry or anyone else running for office in the United States to take money from them. I don’t think JimK taking money from Moore, knowingly or only with a suspicion of the source violates any kind of law.
Then I agree, noone would turn down an anonymous donation. Although JimK did mention he was pretty sure it was Moore. he even traced it to a number of banks very near Moores office.
But he still took it.
So the question I ask is would the example I listed have returned the money after finding out the source of the “anonymous” donation?
Just to keep the facts straight, JimK said that he suspected that it could have been Moore, but that there were a couple of other possible donors. Whether the bank was in Flint or NYC, both have Conservative groups/people that have run afoul of Mikey before, and would have the means to be the donor.
Ultimately, his initial investigations ran into anonymous corporations, meaning the donor had gone to some trouble to maintain his anonymity, and the check was good, so Jim cashed it. That’s my understanding of events at least.
If John Kerry had recieved an anonymous donation to his struggling campaign, and later found out it was from Hamas, and decided not to repay it.....this board, and most of America would be ALL OVER HIM!
Now I admit Kerry is a bad example with his ketchup billions. But you get my drift.
We’d be wondering whether it really was anonymous… past that, what can you do (if it really was anonymous...). Although make fun of him for being compatible enough to Hamas for Hamas to want to give money to him…
Anyway, bad example… JimK is not Moore’s mini me… Moore didn’t want to give JimK money because they agree on some stuff.
If John Kerry had recieved an anonymous donation to his struggling campaign, and later found out it was from Hamas, and decided not to repay it.....this board, and most of America would be ALL OVER HIM!
Now I admit Kerry is a bad example with his ketchup billions. But you get my drift.
That Michael Moore is as bad as Hamas? That seems like a perfect comparison. :smirk:
I don’t understand why the moore sympathizers are purposely sidetracking his motives. He duped JimK into accepting an anonymous donation with the sole purpose of putting it into his film...and financially capitalizing on the illness of Jimk’s wife. He exploited a sick woman in a film about how the healthcare industry exploits sick people (ala “Pets or Meat"). How much more does it have to be broken down for moore fans to understand what really happened? Their blind faith in mikkkel is kind of scary…
Look. Moore’s not exactly Hitler. He even seems to be a good guy, overall, even though he stretches the truth sometimes to make political points. If he was a neo-nazi I would understand people demanding JimK to return the money. But now he isn’t. Moore did a good deed, Jim thanked Moore. Move on already. Why is this even a story?
If he was truly a good guy, the donation would have remained anonymous.
And it wouldn’t have ended up in the climax of the movie. And he wouldn’t have exploited a sick woman in a movie guided by the premise that the big eeevil healthcare industry exploits sick people. How can mikkkel possibly say that his exploitation of sick people (go back and watch “Pets or Meat” again) is any different than the healthcare industries? He wants to sell seats in movie theatres, that’s his bottom line-------M O N E Y. Moore has indicted himself on this one.
Do I have to point out that you were the only one that made that comparison? :cheese:
For the record, I don’t think Moore is anywhere near Hitler or any other “evil” figures.
The only thing Moore has killed is the truth.
