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Posted: 17 August 2005 11:41 AM   [ Ignore ]
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this is being pretty much ignored by most of the Good People abroad, probably because jews are filthy rich anyway, even the kibbuzim. the palis have earned the right to this land. and speaking of broads:

In protest against the evacuations, a 54-year-old woman in the Israeli city of Netivot set herself on fire Wednesday, police said. She was taken to a Beer Sheva hospital in serious condition. A protest was being held at a junction nearby, authorities said.

see the tiny difference?  women are proetesting, and this one set herself ablaze harming only herself, not any infidels standing nearby. 

“I don’t want to, I don’t want to,” screamed one woman as she was carried away, The Associated Press reported.

“I believed that God would not let this happen, but this is not true,” AP quoted a woman in Morag who was clutching a baby.

‘god’ is s out. better get with ‘allah’, sister.

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Posted: 17 August 2005 12:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Ah so these are actual noble protesters. Nice.

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Posted: 17 August 2005 01:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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CM - 17 August 2005 12:30 PM

Ah so these are actual noble protesters. Nice.

the even nobler plo seems to think so. they’re platzing with love and reconciliation:

BEIRUT, Aug 17 (Reuters) - Palestinian militant group Hamas said on Wednesday Israel’s evacuation of Jewish settlements in Gaza was a first step toward the liberation of all occupied land through armed struggle.

Hamas’s top official Khaled Meshaal said the Islamist group would not give up its weapons while Israel continued to occupy land Palestinians want for a state.

Gaza is the first liberation, then comes the West Bank, then every inch of Palestinian land,” Meshaal told reporters in Beirut. “We are at the beginning of the road and we have not and will not give up our weapons. The battle is not over.”

But Meshaal steered clear of restating Hamas’s historic goal of creating an Islamic state that would encompass not only the West Bank and Gaza Strip, but what is now Israel.

“The Zionist plan has begun to retreat. The Palestinian liberation plan of resistance has begun to progress,” said the politburo chief, based outside Palestinian territories.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L17695216.htm

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Posted: 17 August 2005 02:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Here we have yet another example of how the Israelis police themselves while the Palestinians are completely incapable of the same thing.

Back in the early Fifties, David ben Gurion broke the Stern Gang and Irgun by ordering the Israeli military to blow a ship loaded with arms for the two groups out of the water. Ben Gurion’s reasoning was that a real and legal country did not tolerate or support terrorism. Abbas and every other Palestinian Prime Minister has refused to confront Hamas, Fatah and all the other terrorist groups. Abbas just keeps whining about how he has to deal with the terrorists in a way that doesn’t directly confront them because it will offend them.  Offend them, my ass! Abbas—and every other Palestinian “leader”—is nothing more than a wolf in sheep’s clothing. He is a terrorist pure and simple, and he’s not going to rein in any terrorism as long as he believes that terrorism is the proper method of destroying Israel. He is also afraid of losing face because he knows his fellow “leaders” are liars who will manipulate Abbas and the situation to their benefit.

And now the Israelis are pulling their people out of Gaza—by brute force. Sharon swore he would hand Gaza back, and he’s keeping that promise. Has any Palestinian kept any promise except to kill more Jews and Israelis?

Unfortunately, all Sharon is going to get for his work is more Palistinian agitprop and bombs. By backing out of Gaza, he has shown what any Arab will interpret as “cowardice”. The Palestinians smell blood, and they will pour on the pressure while whining to the world how abused they are.

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Posted: 17 August 2005 04:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=107&ItemID;=8530

Rather than being a concession, Sharon’s disengagement plan is means to consolidating Israel’s grip on the West Bank.

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Posted: 17 August 2005 06:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Not all of the West Bank; just where the major settlements are.

Two points to note:

1—The 1967 war has not ended. Most of the Arabs have not signed off on the peace agreement, which means that the Israelis are under no obligation to hand anything back to anyone.

2—UN Resolution 442(?) says absolutely nothing about Israel retreating to the pre-67 or pre-48 borders. It simply says that Israel must return to DEFENSIBLE borders. The Palestinians have spun and spun and spun until everyone believes that the Israelis are supposed to return to a state of indefensiveness by giving back all of Gaza, the West Bank and the Golan Heights.

IMHO, giving back the Golan Heights would be tantamount to committing mass suicide. Returning all of the West Bank would also be mass suicide—only a little slower.

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Posted: 17 August 2005 06:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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I saw that one women had torched herself in protest.  I know it was her home....but 70% burns on her body and she is alive?  Absolutely carckers.

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Posted: 17 August 2005 06:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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if allah had any sense of humor he’d let her die and offer her crunchy hymen to the proud charred jihadi arrived in nirvana to have their way with virgins.

gaza pullout

gauze pull out

it just goes downhill from there

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Posted: 17 August 2005 06:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Charming as ever....Jabba

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Posted: 17 August 2005 06:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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if it looks ugly, smells ugly, tastes ugly, feels ugly, sounds ugly, its probably ugly. so lets call it - uh, whats ILAs word for it?

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Posted: 17 August 2005 06:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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You are so REAL man. Feel the real.

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Posted: 17 August 2005 06:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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CM - 17 August 2005 06:44 PM

You are so REAL man. Feel the real.

i feel we should fine her for increasing our atmospheres C02

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Posted: 17 August 2005 06:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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jeepers......CM...you once called me the english jabba......boy is that extreme

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Posted: 17 August 2005 07:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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he’s just funny. you know - a funny guy - wink, wink

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Posted: 17 August 2005 08:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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I feel terrible for the people of Gaza, having to leave their homes. But the settlements in Gaza are illegal. The international consensus is that they are illegal. Even the British government has accepted that for any peace deal to be brokered, the majority would have to go. I for one would like to see the end to the continuous cycle of violence. They have to go. End of story.

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Posted: 17 August 2005 09:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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I bet the palistinians get itchy feet and start wanting more land.  Bet their going to love their nice new houses in gaza....and all for nothing....It will be like a january sale when the get access to the strip.......bagsy that house is mine!

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Posted: 17 August 2005 09:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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jabba - 17 August 2005 07:23 PM

he’s just funny. you know - a funny guy - wink, wink

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Posted: 18 August 2005 06:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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Arsenalman - 17 August 2005 09:12 PM

I bet the palistinians get itchy feet and start wanting more land.  Bet their going to love their nice new houses in gaza....and all for nothing....It will be like a january sale when the get access to the strip.......bagsy that house is mine!

The first thing to happen is that all the houses will be destroyed.

See:
http://moorewatch.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6144&highlight;=planning

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Posted: 18 August 2005 10:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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wooga - 17 August 2005 09:14 PM

jabba - 17 August 2005 07:23 PM
he’s just funny. you know - a funny guy - wink, wink

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link no work.

everyones so concerned about their precious lil pics. copied and pasted into the address field the link does workie

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Posted: 18 August 2005 10:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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jabba - 17 August 2005 11:41 AM

this is being pretty much ignored by most of the Good People abroad, probably because jews are filthy rich anyway, even the kibbuzim. the palis have earned the right to this land. and speaking of broads:

In protest against the evacuations, a 54-year-old woman in the Israeli city of Netivot set herself on fire Wednesday, police said. She was taken to a Beer Sheva hospital in serious condition. A protest was being held at a junction nearby, authorities said.

see the tiny difference?  women are proetesting, and this one set herself ablaze harming only herself, not any infidels standing nearby. 

“I don’t want to, I don’t want to,” screamed one woman as she was carried away, The Associated Press reported.

“I believed that God would not let this happen, but this is not true,” AP quoted a woman in Morag who was clutching a baby.

‘god’ is s out. better get with ‘allah’, sister.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4161584.stm

Some settlers who had been put on a bus attempted to set it on fire

a Jewish settler killed four Palestinians in the West Bank

Ooops, must have accidently missed themselves and killed some others by mistake.

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Posted: 18 August 2005 11:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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plo killed a lot more when they were forced out of gaza at gunpoint, barefoot in the snow. isn’t that one of reasons global jihad is happening?

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Posted: 18 August 2005 11:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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Nice change of tactic.

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Posted: 18 August 2005 11:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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CM - 18 August 2005 11:43 AM

Nice change of tactic.

i learned it from the Good People

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Posted: 18 August 2005 11:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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How convenient.

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Posted: 18 August 2005 12:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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CM - 18 August 2005 11:51 AM

How convenient.

thats how they like it.

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Posted: 18 August 2005 12:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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The Gaza Strip will remain sealed off from the rest of the world by a barrier and Israeli forces. Gaza residents will have no more control over their borders after the withdrawal than before.

Some zmag, especially for you Jabba:

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=107&ItemID;=8529

Also, according to the terms of the plan Sharon has laid out, Israel will retain the right to conduct military operations inside Gaza to search for terrorists. The guidelines for these incursions are very vague and there are no specific limitations on these operations or what the Israeli military can do during these operations. In other words, there is no guarantee that there won’t be a repeat of military incursions like those in Rafah from May 12-24, 2004 which were responsible for the death of 59 Palestinians and the demolition of 254 homes, leaving some 3800 people homeless.

A key aide to Sharon, Dov Weisglass, was kind enough to spell this out for us. In an interview with the Israeli newspaper, Ha’aretz, on October 8, 2004, Weisglass explained that the withdrawal plan allows Israel to “… park conveniently in an interim situation that distances us as far as possible from political pressure. It legitimizes our contention that there is no negotiating with the Palestinians. There is a decision here to do the minimum possible in order to maintain our political situation. The decision is proving itself. It is making it possible for the Americans to go to the seething and simmering international community and say to them, `What do you want.’ It also transfers the initiative to our hands. It compels the world to deal with our idea, with the scenario we wrote. It places the Palestinians under tremendous pressure. It forces them into a corner that they hate to be in. It thrusts them into a situation in which they have to prove their seriousness. There are no more excuses. There are no more Israeli soldiers spoiling their day. And for the first time they have a slice of land with total continuity on which they can race from one end to the other in their Ferrari. And the whole world is watching them – them, not us. The whole world is asking what they intend to do with this slice of land.”

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