Hey chucklehead, you wanna back ANY of this up with facts, or is it more daily Kos, moveon.org, demo underground drivel?
Didn’t North Korea recently come back to the table and agree to disarm?
Kurds had autonomy under Saddam? What about the gasing?
SOME eurotrash politikkks didn’t support the ENFORCEMENT OF THE UN MANDATE!
Come down frenchie and learn some history
Concerns for Safety of Kurdish refugees was reflected in the United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 which gave birth to a safe haven, in which allied air power protected a Kurdish zone inside Iraq. While the no-fly zone covered Dohuk and Irbil, it left out Sulaimaniya and Kirkuk. Then following several bloody clashes between Iraqi forces and Kurdish troops, an uneasy and shaky balance of power was reached, and the Iraqi government withdrew its military and other personnel from the region in October 1991. At the same time, Iraq imposed an economic blockade over the region, reducing its oil and food supplies. The region thus gained de facto independence, being ruled by the two principal Kurdish parties – the Kurdish Democratic Party and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan – outside the control of Baghdad. The region has its own flag and National Anthem.
The gasing happened years before when saddams military was really powerfull, and before the 1st us invasion when Rumsfeld shaked hands with Saddam.
Yes we can always see it how prepared to comromise north korea is.
North Korea Waiting on Funds to Act on Nuclear Program
A North Korean official told a visiting U.S. delegation Monday that the deadline to shut down the country’s reactor will be difficult to meet because of delays from a dispute over $25 million in funds.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/indepth_coverage/asia/northkorea/
Whats about Iran?
yes a lot of european politicians are pissed of about Bush and his liars and a lot of them lost their job like Blair, Aznar.
After “some time”, how many more rapes, murders, and genocide would continue to occur? Do you know how many people were killed during Saddam’s rule? How about we have your sister raped and tortured? Would you say that the perps should be left in a position of power after that?
Sorry I dont have a sister.
do you know how many people were killed under Saddam, how many people have been killed since the invasion, since the creation
of chaos and civilwar in iraq???
and the bigger problem, the invasion of iraq was the best support for Al kaida, fighting against the infidels and expelling them from their holy land.
Government ministers Tuesday backed the Iraqi Interior Ministry’s decision to shut down Blackwater USA’s operations in Iraq after the American security firm was involved in a Baghdad firefight that authorities say killed eight civilians.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/09/18/blackwater.iraq/index.html
One of the U.S. soldiers accused of raping and killing an Iraqi and slaying her family told investigators that after the killings he poured kerosene on the girl’s bullet-ridden body, according to testimony Monday in a military hearing.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/07/iraq.familyslain/index.html
Four more soldiers were charged with rape and murder in connection with the slaying of a young Iraqi woman and her family in Mahmoudiya, south of Baghdad, the U.S. military announced Sunday.
One of the U.S. soldiers accused of raping and killing an Iraqi and slaying her family told investigators that after the killings he poured kerosene on the girl’s bullet-ridden body, according to testimony Monday in a military hearing.
Makes sense if you want to make it look like Iraqis did it. But forensics can tell if the girl was dead or alive when she was dosued. Iraqis typically do the latter and light them bitches up.
Four more soldiers were charged with rape and murder in connection with the slaying of a young Iraqi woman and her family in Mahmoudiya, south of Baghdad, the U.S. military announced Sunday.
The date on your link reads August 7, 2006. You do realize that it doesn’t count as another rape everytime you read this same story?
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a lot of european politicians told the US not to invade iraq, well the critics have been called
chicken, cowards...., but they were right.
Now the whole world has to pay the price, and bin laden is still alive (or maybe not)
I don’t trust my gov’t Ossie. I don’t trust yours either, or really, any gov’t.
I am assuming they stated so for their own interests, just as ours does.
If it is “correct”, any nobility of purpose is purely coincidence.
Government ministers Tuesday backed the Iraqi Interior Ministry’s decision to shut down Blackwater USA’s operations in Iraq after the American security firm was involved in a Baghdad firefight that authorities say killed eight civilians.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/09/18/blackwater.iraq/index.html
This latest Blackwater incident is yet another in a growing list of ‘private contractors’ engaging in gunfire, resulting in an increasing civilian death count. Effectively non-uniformed people involving themselves in a war. Didn’t some people have problems with that when it was the other way around? If they are captured, can’t the enemy do anything they like?
Effectively non-uniformed people involving themselves in a war. Didn’t some people have problems with that when it was the other way around?
So, lets call them American Foreign Legionaires and outfit them with kepis, or better yet, baseball caps worn backward. Its not so far-fetched:
The existence of the French Foreign Legion has led to a romantic view that it is a place for a wronged man to leave behind his old life to start a new one, but also that it is full of scoundrels and men escaping justice. This view of the legion is common in literature, and has been used for dramatic effect in many films, not the least of which are the several versions of Beau Geste
Hows about we offer illegal immigrants a stint with Blackwater in return for a green card? Its a French idea so it simply rocks.
Hell no, I wasnt being snarky. I have see what you write about history and I think you have it nailed. Actually, what I had intended to say was that you were more qualified than me.
Why would I be snarky???
Sorry, I used the wrong word. You know us senior citizens: we all suffer from CRS syndrome—Can’t Remember Shit. I meant to say facetious.
Thanks for saying nice things about my grasp of history. That’s quite a compliment coming from someone in this group.
Aetius: When I said Ike didn’t have to put up with this crap, I meant that Congress wasn’t breathing down his neck during the entire European campaign, hyperventilating and screeching every minute of every day. And as far as Japan and Germany being reduced to rubble and their people suffering total defeat: maybe we should have done that to Iraq to start with. Enough of this happy hogwash of our people fighting with both hands tied behind their backs.
Iraqis are simply used to their daily fix of murder and mayhem
They even fry children for peace and love. Some Westerners understand this ritual to be part of their rich heritage and ancient culture and pay it no heed.
By STEVEN R. HURST, Associated Press Writer 58 minutes ago
BAGHDAD - Deaths among American forces and Iraqi civilians fell dramatically last month to their lowest levels in more than a year, according to figures compiled by the U.S. military, the Iraqi government and The Associated Press.
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The decline signaled a U.S. success in bringing down violence in Baghdad and surrounding regions since Washington completed its infusion of 30,000 more troops on June 15.
A total of 64 American forces died in September — the lowest monthly toll since July 2006.
The decline in Iraqi civilian deaths was even more dramatic, falling from 1,975 in August to 922 last month, a decline of 53.3 percent. The breakdown in September was 844 civilians and 78 police and Iraqi soldiers, according to Iraq’s ministries of Health, Interior and Defense.
That is a drastic reduction in only a single month. Be interesting to see if it can be kept to less than 35 a day for a 3-4 month period.
EDIT: Although is it really all that surprising.....?
Spiegel Online: A lot of people have been saying that the US presence there is a big part of the problem. Is anyone in the White House listening?
Hersh: No. The president is still talking about the “Surge” as if it’s going to unite the country. But the Surge was a con game of putting additional troops in there. We’ve basically Balkanized the place, building walls and walling off Sunnis from Shiites. And in Anbar Province, where there has been success, all of the Shiites are gone. They’ve simply split.
Spiegel Online: Is that why there has been a drop in violence there?
Hersh: I think that’s a much better reason than the fact that there are a couple more soldiers on the ground.
Spiegel Online: So what are the lessons of the Surge?
Hersh: The Surge means basically that, in some way, the president has accepted ethnic cleansing, whether he’s talking about it or not. When he first announced the Surge in January, he described it as a way to bring the parties together. He’s not saying that any more. I think he now understands that ethnic cleansing is what is going to happen. You’re going to have a Kurdistan. You’re going to have a Sunni area that we’re going to have to support forever. And you’re going to have the Shiites in the South.
You’re going to have a Kurdistan. You’re going to have a Sunni area that we’re going to have to support forever. And you’re going to have the Shiites in the South.
Kurds rhymes with “nerds”, Sunnis should be reamed Kunis ("asses" in Farsi, eh) and Shites, well....
If the East Bloc can break up into happy little countries each nurturing its ancient culture why not Iraq, if it ends the brutal idiocy there?
Let them kill each other for a decade or so and the borders will naturally coalesce. That way the Evil West isn’t interfering or drawing borders. Problem solved!
Let them kill each other for a decade or so and the borders will naturally coalesce. That way the Evil West isn’t interfering or drawing borders. Problem solved!
I understand that because the US States disagree on so many things, Bahrain is going to suggest that the Idaho/Montana border to shifted about 137 miles north-east.
You know that would cause another Civil War. We’d have no other recourse. Montana and Idaho never did Bahrain much harm, but they still want everyone in the US dead
If it causes any kind of friction, then that’s all your fault. Just do it already.
Actually, we need to look at the New York/New Jersey border. Qatar wants it moved by 8 miles. Go.
By STEVEN R. HURST, Associated Press Writer 58 minutes ago
BAGHDAD - Deaths among American forces and Iraqi civilians fell dramatically last month to their lowest levels in more than a year, according to figures compiled by the U.S. military, the Iraqi government and The Associated Press.
ADVERTISEMENT
The decline signaled a U.S. success in bringing down violence in Baghdad and surrounding regions since Washington completed its infusion of 30,000 more troops on June 15.
A total of 64 American forces died in September — the lowest monthly toll since July 2006.
The decline in Iraqi civilian deaths was even more dramatic, falling from 1,975 in August to 922 last month, a decline of 53.3 percent. The breakdown in September was 844 civilians and 78 police and Iraqi soldiers, according to Iraq’s ministries of Health, Interior and Defense.
Let them kill each other for a decade or so and the borders will naturally coalesce. That way the Evil West isn’t interfering or drawing borders. Problem solved!
I understand that because the US States disagree on so many things, Bahrain is going to suggest that the Idaho/Montana border to shifted about 137 miles north-east.
Actually, they get along famously.
New Hampshire can be a bit grumpy at times, and Montana and Wyoming are a bit wild, but all borders are open.
