Talking of double standards, I’m willing to bet those people who always claim/insinuate that offense taken by blacks at racist comments or behaviour is exaggerated have been many of the ones jumping up and down making out that Wright is the most offensive person who’s ever lived.
Talking of double standards, I’m willing to bet those people who always claim/insinuate that offense taken by blacks at racist comments or behaviour is exaggerated have been many of the ones jumping up and down making out that Wright is the most offensive person who’s ever lived.
What’s exaggerated? Everyday things that are spun into being ‘racist’? And that’s on par with rev Wright’s talk?
You’re big on evidence. Please provide it. You made a pretty sweeping statement.
Having double standards means your a racist… so even though ‘someone’ (re: maybe you) is an NPR listener / liberal type does not mean you can be excused for having the PC view/s on an issue. Having a double standard (even the ‘right’ double standard) means your a racist....
If the shoe fits....
rev Wright and Obama are finding out around now...
So you’ve got nothing.
I love how Obama = Wright. Talk about a double standard.
He sat there for 20 years… I’d have left that place within two minutes of hearing that hate speech.
Talking of double standards, I’m willing to bet those people who always claim/insinuate that offense taken by blacks at racist comments or behaviour is exaggerated have been many of the ones jumping up and down making out that Wright is the most offensive person who’s ever lived.
What’s exaggerated? Everyday things that are spun into being ‘racist’? And that’s on par with rev Wright’s talk?
So I guess you find it ironic that a critique of Obama for being too general should probably be specific? I agree.
I posted it as an example of rising democrat hostility to Obama… not for it’s quality as a critique. I don’t disagree with it, but it certainly could have used more support for the arguments.
I think I would like to see some polling for this rising dem hostility. Everything I’ve seen indicates that, if anything, support of Obama rose after the Wright comments.
Couldn’t both support AND hostility rise? There’s more than one person being polled.
ding ding ding....
You’re big on evidence. Please provide it. You made a pretty sweeping statement.
I guess I don’t know what qualifies as a “sweeping statement”. If “God damn America” and “U-S-of-KKK-A” don’t qualify, why does sl0re’s example (not proof) of rising (not all-encompassing) democrat (not everybody) hostility (not hatred) towards Obama?
Is it a double-standard to call out others for their double-standards while holding double-standards of your own? Yes. Maybe a meta-double-standard.
Still waiting for outrage over the Mormon church’s recent positions.
And waiting…
A: Recent?
and
B: Why? Any of us Mormon and or give a cr*p? Why should I care what Mormons think?
Its a double standard. Romney gave a speech on religion about his church, which in very recent history and to this day have what most people believes are at least strange beliefs, and in recent history, involved systematic child abuse. The media response was outrage that there was a religious test to run for President wtfomgbbq?!? The irony lost is that every presidential race since Reagan has involved a tacit religious test just like the one affecting Romney.
Obama must explain why his black preacher said such terrible things as “God damn America” for our collective decision to kill innocents in response to the killing of innocents. An easy argument can be made that its close to what Christ would say in this situation. You guys get apoplectic calling him a racist and unpatriotic former marine (just kidding you left that part out). And to act outraged that a black politician goes to a black church that says things that many blacks think is living in a world with blinders on.
The patriotism espoused that doesn’t allow one to criticize their country is infantile. Its the reaction small children have when someone insults their daddy. I personally think that most people are smarter than that. And if the polling is any indication, I might just be right.
Mugabe is a black president - been so for 25+ years. Not a single Euro dangles from the Eiffel Tower in protest of what the racist US describes as questionable antics his black culture, a culture so ancient, multi-faceted and complex that a non-cultured gringo couldn’t readily comprehend its graceful objectivity in helping the world defend and heal itself from imperialism’s atrocities.
Mugabe makes me burst forth in song:
Buffalo soldier, dreadlock rasta:
It was a buffalo soldier in the heart of America,
stolen from Africa, brought to America:
Fighting on arrival, fighting for survival.
I mean it, when I analyse the stench,
to me it make a lot of sense.
How did dreadlock rasta was buffalo soldier.
And he was taking from Africa,
brought to America.
Fighting on arrival, fighting for survival.
Say it was a buffalo soldier, dreadlock rasta.
Buffalo soldier, in the heart of America.
If you know your history,
Then you would know where you coming from,
Then you wouldnt have to ask me,
Who the heck do you think I am.
Im just a buffalo soldier in the heart of America,
Stolen from africa, brought to America,
Said he was fighting on arrival, fighting for survival;
Said he was a buffalo soldier win the war for America.
Buffalo soldier troddin through the land, wo-ho-ooh!
Said he wanna ran, then you wanna hand,
Troddin through the land, yea-hea, yea-ea.
Said he was a buffalo soldier win the war for America;
Buffalo soldier, dreadlock rasta,
Fighting on arrival, fighting for survival;
Driven from the mainland to the heart of the Caribbean.
Troddin through San Juan in the arms of America;
Troddin through Jamaica, a buffalo soldier# -
Fighting on arrival, fighting for survival:
Buffalo soldier, dreadlock rasta.
Still waiting for outrage over the Mormon church’s recent positions.
And waiting…
A: Recent?
and
B: Why? Any of us Mormon and or give a cr*p? Why should I care what Mormons think?
Its a double standard. Romney gave a speech on religion about his church, which in very recent history and to this day have what most people believes are at least strange beliefs, and in recent history, involved systematic child abuse. The media response was outrage that there was a religious test to run for President wtfomgbbq?!? The irony lost is that every presidential race since Reagan has involved a tacit religious test just like the one affecting Romney.
The media response was not outrage. The questioning of Romney’s religion came largely from the media! Conservatives’ response was more bewildered than outraged.
Obama must explain why his black preacher said such terrible things as “God damn America"…
Or as you described earlier, “no big deal”.
...for our collective decision to kill innocents in response to the killing of innocents.
Which gets to his (your?) reasoning. Do we intentionally kill innocents? Do terrorists?
An easy argument can be made that its close to what Christ would say in this situation. You guys get apoplectic calling him a racist and unpatriotic former marine (just kidding you left that part out). And to act outraged that a black politician goes to a black church that says things that many blacks think is living in a world with blinders on.
How many blacks? What’s the percentage Chicago-wide? Nation-wide? If “many” people hold a prejudice, does that make it okay?
The patriotism espoused that doesn’t allow one to criticize their country is infantile.
As is the claim that vilification of someone/thing is merely “criticism”.
Its the reaction small children have when someone insults their daddy.
It’s usually another small child that makes the insult. Wait..."insult" or “criticism”? You’re moving goalposts here.
I personally think that most people are smarter than that. And if the polling is any indication, I might just be right.
If people are satisfied with Obama’s speech, that’s okay. If others are not satisfied, that’s also okay. I don’t know where your hubbub comes from. But it seems to me you want to question Romney for the beliefs of his ancestors that are not his own, but want to defend Wright against criticism of beliefs that are his own. Where’s that double-standard? Did I win free tickets to Disney’s Goal-Posts On Ice???
bartink
You guys get apoplectic calling him a racist and unpatriotic former marine (just kidding you left that part out). And to act outraged that a black politician goes to a black church that says things that many blacks think is living in a world with blinders on.
The patriotism espoused that doesn’t allow one to criticize their country is infantile. Its the reaction small children have when someone insults their daddy. I personally think that most people are smarter than that. And if the polling is any indication, I might just be right.
How do you throw in patriotism and racism? You’re just going from one talking point to another these days. In the meantime, the idiot Obama keeps stepping in it:
You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not.
And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
So, at an Obama fundraiser set up for San Francisco millionaires and billionaires, Obama calls Pennsylvanians (the ones he wants to vote for him shortly), gun nuts, religious wackos and xenophobic racists in a span of 10 seconds or so. I have to admit that that is a political strategy that I never saw coming. Can you imagine this guy on the international front? And even more funny was hearing the erudite, articulate speaker, the only candidate who can bring blacks, browns, whites, reds and yellows together; explain his gaff by saying “I, I, I, I cccould have said it better...” No Chance, you could have said “I could have said it better” better, but you made it perfectly clear how you feel about middle America whitey. And we’re still expected to believe that twenty years in Chance’s church had no effect on his view of whitey. Go ahead bart and CM, spin away.
And funnier still was Billary’s beer swilling, shot guzzling pandering to middle America whitey explaining why, after 35 years of living off the taxpayer dole, she’s not an elitist like Chance. And I didn’t mention her husband Billary coming up with four, count ‘em, four lies in his explanation of the Bosnian sniper fire that Billary the candidate survived. Well, I guess I did mention it. Anyway, you’ve got a couple of candidates to proud of, bart. Yes, indeed…
Years from now, when we look back on Bill Clinton’s presidency, its defining moment may well be Clinton’s rationalization to the grand jury about why he wasn’t lying when he said to his top aides that with respect to Monica Lewinsky, “there’s nothing going on between us.” How can this be? Here’s what Clinton told the grand jury (according to footnote 1,128 in Starr’s report):
“It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is. If the--if he--if ‘is’ means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true.”
“Today Hillary Clinton said that Barrack Obama is an elitist and out of touch with middle America. Later, Bill Clinton gave a speech about it and charged a million bucks.” -Jay Leno
I have to admit that that is a political strategy that I never saw coming. Can you imagine this guy on the international front? And even more funny was hearing the erudite, articulate speaker, the only candidate who can bring blacks, browns, whites, reds and yellows together; explain his gaff by saying “I, I, I, I cccould have said it better...”
He thought it was off the record… and it was reported by a supporter in the middle of a Huffpo blog post that was all quite supportive / a puff piece. No one realised how bad those comments sounded until McCain’s people noticed them… Beautiful thing about being out of touch, by definition your tone def to how bad you sound to people outside your group…
Still, I think Zombie was there too and posted it. It may have come out later via that (re: after we noticed it there).
Still waiting for outrage over the Mormon church’s recent positions.
And waiting…
A: Recent?
and
B: Why? Any of us Mormon and or give a cr*p? Why should I care what Mormons think?
Its a double standard. Romney gave a speech on religion about his church, which in very recent history and to this day have what most people believes are at least strange beliefs, and in recent history, involved systematic child abuse.
My brother is a Mormon. I’m missing all that.
Maybe some Mormons have strange beliefs.
Past that, I’m not a Romney guy so the next question is so what? It’s like trying to tar Hill supporters for not denouncing Obama’s church. It makes no sense… and I’m sure they would if you brought it up… just like if you have anything on Mormons that they do that is bad, I’ll join you in critising it.
Bart? CM? Any thoughts on Obama’s take on middle America blue collar whitey?
Oh you know they’ll just take the democrat and media (but I repeat myself) line. You know, he didn’t actually mean it like that but its 100% true that they are a bunch of racist slack-jawed yokels.
Did anyone catch whitey’s deliberate sabotage of Knick’s coach Isiah (Lord) Thomas life because he’s talented, black and looks like Osama Obama with this purplish-black lips?
NEW YORK (AP) — A U.S. federal jury decided Madison Square Garden and its chairman must pay $11.6 million (U.S.) in damages to former New York Knicks executive Anucha Browne Sanders in her sexual harassment lawsuit.
A verdict earlier Tuesday found that Knicks coach and former Toronto Raptors executive Isiah Thomas subjected Browne Sanders to unwanted advances and a barrage of verbal insults, but that he did not have to pay punitive damages.
bartink
You guys get apoplectic calling him a racist and unpatriotic former marine (just kidding you left that part out). And to act outraged that a black politician goes to a black church that says things that many blacks think is living in a world with blinders on.
The patriotism espoused that doesn’t allow one to criticize their country is infantile. Its the reaction small children have when someone insults their daddy. I personally think that most people are smarter than that. And if the polling is any indication, I might just be right.
How do you throw in patriotism and racism? You’re just going from one talking point to another these days. In the meantime, the idiot Obama keeps stepping in it:
You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not.
And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
So, at an Obama fundraiser set up for San Francisco millionaires and billionaires, Obama calls Pennsylvanians (the ones he wants to vote for him shortly), gun nuts, religious wackos and xenophobic racists in a span of 10 seconds or so. I have to admit that that is a political strategy that I never saw coming. Can you imagine this guy on the international front? And even more funny was hearing the erudite, articulate speaker, the only candidate who can bring blacks, browns, whites, reds and yellows together; explain his gaff by saying “I, I, I, I cccould have said it better...” No Chance, you could have said “I could have said it better” better, but you made it perfectly clear how you feel about middle America whitey. And we’re still expected to believe that twenty years in Chance’s church had no effect on his view of whitey. Go ahead bart and CM, spin away.
And funnier still was Billary’s beer swilling, shot guzzling pandering to middle America whitey explaining why, after 35 years of living off the taxpayer dole, she’s not an elitist like Chance. And I didn’t mention her husband Billary coming up with four, count ‘em, four lies in his explanation of the Bosnian sniper fire that Billary the candidate survived. Well, I guess I did mention it. Anyway, you’ve got a couple of candidates to proud of, bart. Yes, indeed…
