ANZAC Day
Posted: 24 April 2008 11:36 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Someone on another board I belong to mentioned that today was ANZAC Day.

To all of our ANZAC friends—my respect, my admiration and my gratitude for everything the ANZACs did.

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Posted: 24 April 2008 12:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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April 25th apparently.  So likely in that part of the world it is.  I’m not up on all my international time zones though.

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Posted: 24 April 2008 02:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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It is already ANZAC Day in New Zealand and Australia.

It is the anniversary of the day the ANZAC(Autralia New Zealand Army Corps) landed at Gallipolli in WW1. The campaign to force open the Dardanelles lasted months and cost the lives of over 8,000 ANZAC lives. I understand, though I might be wrong, that it is recognized as their Memorial Day.

My thanks and most sincere respects to any of our ANZAC members who served and to any of their friends and family who served.

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old;
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

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Posted: 25 April 2008 02:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Yep, cheers guys. Yes, we share this day with Australia - it’s effectively our joint Memorial Day. I didn’t make the Dawn Services this year. Our Prime Minister was at our local parade and service, as this is her home electorate. But as we get further and further away from 1915, the numbers attending services all over the country grows each year.
Certainly a low key day. Businesses are closed until 1pm, the rest of us non-retail types get the day off.
Was interesting to see the live Dawn Service from Gallipoli on television a couple of hours ago after having travelled there recently and walked about for a day. Would have been amazing to have been there today. Over 20,000 gathered at the small cove, many camped out for more than 12 hours to secure their positions.

On 25 April 1915, eight months into the First World War, Allied soldiers landed on the shores of the Gallipoli peninsula. This was Turkish territory that formed part of Germany’s ally, the Ottoman Empire. The troops were there as part of a plan to open the Dardanelles Strait to the Allied fleets, allowing them to threaten the Ottoman capital Constantinople (now Istanbul) and, it was hoped, force a Turkish surrender. The Allied forces encountered unexpectedly strong resistance from the Turks, and both sides suffered enormous loss of life.

The forces from New Zealand and Australia, fighting as part of the ANZAC (Australian and New Zealand Army Corps), played an important part in the Gallipoli campaign. At its beginning, people at home greeted with excitement the news that our soldiers were at last fully engaged in the war. New Zealand soldiers distinguished themselves with their courage and skill, establishing an enduring bond with the Australians they fought alongside.

The Gallipoli campaign was, however, a costly failure for the Allies, who after nine months abandoned it and evacuated their surviving troops. Almost a third of the New Zealanders taking part had been killed; the communities they came from had counted the cost in the lengthy casualty lists that appeared in their newspapers. And the sacrifice seemed to have been in vain, for the under-resourced and poorly-conducted campaign did not have any significant influence on the outcome of the war.

Although Anzac Day, the anniversary of the first day of conflict, does not mark a military triumph, it does remind us of a very important episode in New Zealand’s history. Great suffering was caused to a small country by the loss of so many of its young men. But the Gallipoli campaign showcased attitudes and attributes - bravery, tenacity, practicality, ingenuity, loyalty to King and comrades - that helped New Zealand define itself as a nation, even as it fought unquestioningly on the other side of the world in the name of the British Empire.

After Gallipoli, New Zealand had a greater confidence in its distinct identity, and a greater pride in the international contribution it could make. And the mutual respect earned during the fighting formed the basis of the close ties with Australia that continue today.

http://www.anzac.govt.nz/significance/index.html

In 1934 Atatürk wrote this amazing tribute to the ANZACs killed at Gallipoli:

Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives… You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side now here in this country of ours… you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well.

Just incredible. We were there invading for crying out loud…

Our latest ‘war hero’ has given his VC medal to ‘the country’.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid;=10506177

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Posted: 25 April 2008 02:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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260 - days of the Gallipoli Campaign

8556 - NZ forces landed: 4852 NZ forces wounded, 2721 NZ forces fatalities

8709 - Australian forces fatalities

33,072 - fatalities from all British forces

10,000* - French fatalities

87,000* - Turkish fatalities

20,000* - total number attending 2005 Anzac Day commemorations at Gallipoli

*Estimated number

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Posted: 25 April 2008 11:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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The campaign to force open the Dardanelles lasted months and cost the lives of over 8,000 ANZAC lives.

8556 - NZ forces landed: 4852 NZ forces wounded, 2721 NZ forces fatalities

8709 - Australian forces fatalities

My apologies, Apparently my source ignored the NZ part of ANZAC’s casualty lists. I knew how disproportionate the NZ losses were and would never knowingly downplay them.

Our latest ‘war hero’ has given his VC medal to ‘the country’.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid;=10506177

Amazing story, I am always astonished at the lack of chest-puffing among VC, and for that matter MOH, holders. I suppose that having known real danger and fear the petty victories and annoyances most of us regularly face fail to impress them, but I honestly don’t know.

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Posted: 25 April 2008 05:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Sorry John it wasn’t my intention to ‘correct’ you.

It’s quite overwhelming how senseless the Gallipoli campaign was. It was a high-risk strategy that cost a lot of lives. They simply got sent to be slaughtered.

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Posted: 25 April 2008 10:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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CM - 25 April 2008 05:35 PM

Sorry John it wasn’t my intention to ‘correct’ you.

It’s quite overwhelming how senseless the Gallipoli campaign was. It was a high-risk strategy that cost a lot of lives. They simply got sent to be slaughtered.

Not a “correction” just a lesson. I never have a problem with getting my historical facts in better order.

The Gallipolli campaign was Churchill’s “baby”. While he is quite rightly seen as a great war-time leader, he was also completely willing to scrifice everyone for what he saw as the good of Great Britain. In WW2, it is believed by many that he had advanced warning, from Enigma, of the horrible bombing raid of Coventry on 14 Nov, 1940, yet didn’t allow early warning or evacuation of civilians to prevent Germany from realizing he could read their messages.

Gallipolli was simply an earlier example of his intransigence.

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