Monday, November 12, 2007
A Collection of Emails
Allow me to follow up for a moment on Jim’s brilliant post below. As the recipient of an astonishing amount of hate mail myself, let me state for the record that I agree with everything Jim wrote, and every word of what he said is true and accurate. I’d like to focus on the few intelligent critiques we get. First there was this one, which Moore fans will undoubtedly accuse me of inventing myself. The author’s first name is Lauren, and if she gives me permission I will post her full name and/or email. The subject of her email was “Sometimes, closed minds can be opened.”
Hello fellas,
I hope this e-mail finds you all doing well, and happy. Let me first start off by saying that I have been a fan of Michael Moore’s for even longer than Bowling For Columbine. That was, until last month when I finally got to see Sicko. Imagine my excitement when I saw the lovely DVD box trimmed in silver lettering: ‘Special Edition’ (Nevermind that the film itself cost more than my prescriptions this year).
Like any human being with so much as a pulse, I openly wept for the people suffering ailments and those who died from not being able to afford health care. I was utterly angered when I saw the infamous 12-g’s handed over to Jim and Donna K. However, I felt that it might have been uncalled for that he publicly make himself appear to be such a caring humanitarian hero, and to dehumanize these two people. So, after the film, I went to moorewatch.com, and, unexpectedly, began to question Mr. Moore’s tactics.
The more I discovered, the more upset I became with the man. I decided to do my own research on things presented in his documentaries, especially from this particular one. Being a Medicaid recipient myself, I have often believed in socialized medicine and still do to some extent. However, your site has helped me to make my own stance, instead of hanging on what this liberal junkie says. It’s sad that I’ve actually lost some friends over taking my own position, but if that’s the case, then what sort of friends were they to me if they cared about Moore...er....more?
Thank you for the freedom of a once closed mind, to become more open.
For Jim and Donna:
I’m so glad that the people who read the site came to your aid. I wish you both well. You’re an inspiration.-LC
Here’s an email that comes from a reader named Jake. Same deal, if he gives me permission to post his name and/or email I’ll do so.
Though I’m sure you two work together and/or are friends of each other I just wanted to let you know that this email is being set to both of the emails on the website. Also I have no problems if you choose to post this on your site though I’m sure you’ll find nothing in it special enough to post about. However if you do I would request that the entire email was posted.
The reason that I am writing is that I am a skeptic. I happen to think that the world is neither white or black but simply shades of gray. To this effect I’ve watched Moore’s most recent film. I enjoyed the film but I realize that things are never black and white. After hearing about the website from the movie I decided to check it out because I think that it’s important to have a balanced perspective. (As a side note I enjoyed reading the reports from the website but I noticed that a majority of them were American based reports. It would be nice to see more information from the places they actually involve as everyone reports things a little differently based on how they perceive the information. By that I mean yes things may suck in Cuba or else where but to the people that live there its normal to them. But maybe you do I only read the most recent 3 pages of the website.)
While I agree that Moore has colored his film to make it look better I think that he has done so with the hope of changing the American heath care system for the better. What are your thoughts? Do you think he is actually helping in any way?
From,
Jake
Here was my response.
Hi Jake. First, thanks for not writing the kind of email that we usually get from Moore fans, which is blubbering, hate-filled overemotional drivel about how we don’t care about sick people or the poor or something like that.
Here’s my stock answer: Jim and I will both be the first to freely and loudly admit that the American system sucks. My parents were victims of this, having had to declare bankruptcy over my father’s medical bills, so I am one of the very people that has been hit by this issue. [Here I should have also mentioned Donna’s situation—Lee]
That being said, Moore treats the issue as if it’s two sides of a coin—you either have the American system or you have the European socialist system. The point Jim and I are trying to get across is that BOTH systems suck, significantly so, and that we as a society need to have the courage to try a third way. There are numerous ideas out there , and we’ve posted them on the blog, so if you do a little reading you’ll be able to find them.
Moore, through his film, has painted this as an either/or issue, when the truth of the matter is that we have far more options than just getting “free” healthcare by sucking at the ample teat of government. This is typical Moore. He could have used his talents (and he is talented) to explore the various healthcare systems around the world, and point out what the best and worst aspects are of each. But that wasn’t the point of his film, he wanted to make a two hour infomercial for socialism, and he used healthcare as the context in which to present it.
So, to answer your question, no, I don’t think he’s helping in any way whatsoever. He’s not interested in actually helping people get healthcare, he’s interested in justifying the socialist belief system that he’s held since he was a teenager, which is why he painted the American system as evil and greedy, and the socialist system as this utopian fantasy world where everyone gets everything they need whenever they need it.
Thankfully, though, Moore’s star is fading. He’s nowhere near as relevant as he was at the tine of Fahrenheit 9/11, as the drop-off in readership on our blog shows. People were clearly able to see through his bullshit on this one, even those who generally agree with him.
Then, just a short time ago, I received this nice piece of typical hate mail from a guy named . (General rule of thumb: hate mail gets posted with names and emails.)
Jim,
How dare you say those terrible things about Michael Moore?! And after he sent you that money to take care of your wife who was put in that situation by the very system Michael is trying to change? If you ask me, Jimbo, it really seems like one of us is completely clueless and simply lacks taste!! I dare you edit this quote to make me look like an idiot!
Ha ha ha,
MZ
My response to Matt: Considering you sent this to me and not Jim, I don’t need to edit anything to make you look like a fucking idiot.
So, what’s the moral of this story? All of the contributors here are more than willing to have discussions with anyone from anywhere on just about any subject. If you are polite with us we will be polite with you. If you have a serious question, write us and we will do our best to answer it. But if you’re going to bother writing, at least try to put some thought into it. To illustrate this, here’s one final pathetic example from , who claims to be a doctor.
Your website is hateful and one-sided. Michael Moore’s willingness to pay for your wife’s medical care then encourage you to continue the website really shows who has the superior moral character and who is taking the high road. I hope you enjoy wallowing in evil & hatred--obviously it suits you.
J. England, MD
Tucson, AZ
I did a little Googling and, sure enough, there is a doctor named Jasmine England in Tucson. Her CV is online. Here’s my response to her.
For someone who went to Tufts and BU you sure are a clueless dunce. Come on, you’re a doctor. Make a logical refuation of what we write, rather than lowering yourself to the overemotional drivel that is the best most Moore fans can hope to achieve.
Disagree with us? Then do better than write this type of dreck.
I mean, seriously. What is it about being a Michael Moore fan that makes someone so inherently fucking stupid?
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