Manufacturing Dissent - Uncovering Michael Moore


Another side of Iraq

Posted by JimK on 11/22/05 at 01:33 AM

The always amazing Michael Yon has a wonderful photo essay up on his blog.  It’s a side of Iraq that the legacy media refuses to show you.

Seek it out for yourself.

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Manufacturing Dissent - Uncovering Michael Moore

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Posted by Raging Boxer  on  11/22/2005  at  03:22 AM (Link to this comment | )

It’s beautiful. The only thing I hate about it is that anyone on the left who sees it will say it’s just photoshopped or there’s something in there that’s a lie. I hope to see more photos.

Posted by bathory  on  11/22/2005  at  04:14 AM (Link to this comment | )

whats with the middle east and green eyes >.<
coolest eye colour ever

Posted by thefrollickingmole  on  11/22/2005  at  07:45 AM (Link to this comment | )

We had a similar set of photos at the detention centre i worked at in Oz. We used to take photos of kids birthdays, pool trips, celebrations and so on.
When we were subjected to a “unbiased” inspection by a human rights inspector i turned over copies of the pics to him as well as the educational and entertainment programmes we had for the kids.
Not one mention in his report, not one photo, nothing.
Happy kids dont help a negative agenda.
Yon is a bloke id gladly buy a beer for. Someone has to put out what might be termed “fluff” bits like this because it is THE STORY.

Posted by ilovecress  on  11/22/2005  at  10:48 AM (Link to this comment | )

There was an incredibly damning documentary on UK’s Channel 4 last night - I’ll see if I can find some info on it for you guys to see.

It followed a reporter around the parts of Iraq he could actually visit with some disturbing footage. He interviewed groups of Iraqi’s in Sadr City, who were waiting for al-Sadr to tell them who to vote for. He interviewed American troops who admitted that they had handed over control of the city to Sadr’s local militia, who exact their own type of (typically extremist) punishments. The reporter tried to visit a school, but the headmaster refused to meet with the press until he had got permission from Sadr head office. Oborne (the reporter) was given a letter in the street by a man who asked him to read it when he was alone. It described the kidnapping and killing of his brother, and the execution of a female friend for suspicion of prostitution. Most alarmingly, the US commander stated that he had orders from above that he was not allowed to arrest Sadr. The interview finished with the commander saying “Although, I don’t think I was meant to tell you that.”

The assertion was that this is similar to what is happening in the British controlled south, where the controlling groups are introducing extreme islamic rules, including the death penalty for women wearing jeans in the street. The peice ended with a senior defence department official suggesting that a deal might be made with the Baath party ‘similar to that nmade in Sadr city’, effectively giving control back to ex-supporters of Saddam.

As you can guess, I am paraphrasing, and have not had a chance to get a hold of the source yet, but I shall try and find a transcript, as I’d like to see how this hold up to the Morrewatch/RTFTLC factbots - but I was wondering if you had heard of anythin similar?

Posted by ilovecress  on  11/22/2005  at  10:53 AM (Link to this comment | )

sorry, forgot the link to the microsite:

http://www.channel4.com/news/microsites/I/iraq_the_reckoning/index.html

Posted by Aerostorm911  on  11/22/2005  at  11:50 AM (Link to this comment | )

are you kidding me, thats really aterror cell secretly funded by bush through his oil goiging profits. those kids are the next generation bin ladens *rolls eyes*

it is nice to see something positive for once.

Posted by relaxitsjustme  on  11/22/2005  at  12:21 PM (Link to this comment | )

It’s good to see these kinds of reports and photographs.
The only news the media likes is bad news so smiling children will make the cutting room floor always.
One report got me:

“In January I wrote about one bomber who grabbed the hand of a small child while she was playing on a sidewalk. Smiling, he walked with the child in hand, approaching some Iraqi police, and exploded. Americans standing close by were unharmed.” (May 31st entry)

Why does this not make the news?

Posted by nuyorker  on  11/22/2005  at  01:34 PM (Link to this comment | )
Posted by genFX  on  11/22/2005  at  02:56 PM (Link to this comment | )

The MSM (or legacy media as JimK puts it) are not interested in good stories or the progress that is being made.  It is contrary to the leftist’s beliefs and does not exactly make the news all that interesting.  Appealing to the media’s sense of good only works if it is not contrary to their own self-interests.

Posted by JakeWasHere  on  11/22/2005  at  03:42 PM (Link to this comment | )

Five words: GOOD NEWS IS FUCKING BORING.

Bad news is the only stuff that sells.  Nobody wants to hear about children and schools and happy civilians and shit like that, unless the children and schools and happy civilians are being blown up.  Explosions, gunfire, murder, open warfare in the streets - now that’s what keeps the American people from changing the channel.

Posted by Belcatar  on  11/22/2005  at  04:07 PM (Link to this comment | )

I don’t think I’ll get a chance to see that documentary. But regardless of who ends up ruling Iraq, the U.S. is going to be viewed as a bully. If Iraq does defy all the nay-sayers and becomes a democratic beacon to the rest of the middle east, then the United States used its “Imperial Might” to impose a system of government on Iraq. If the nay-sayers end up being correct, then the U.S. becomes a big, clumsy, dumb, impotent gaggle of gun-toting swine.

It is strange how people insist on hating America, but turn a blind eye when it comes to shamelessly corrupt and fatastically inept governments like the French.

Time, Rolling Stone, and all the other magazines are very quick to point out all the bad things America does to maintain its power in the world. They claim to have a duty to report the truth, but they tend to gloss over things that don’t fit into their narrow little view. Since these people have already come to the conclusion that we’ve “lost” in Iraq, that’s what they show. Anything that shows “winning” becomes “fluff” or “human interest”. Watch the news sometime and try to measure how much good news, of any sort, actually gets reported. If you can find 30 seconds of good news, not counting shills for various forms of entertainment, that’s an accomplishment. 

Rolling Stone is especially obnoxious to me. (My stepson receives the magazine. I wouldn’t pay a nickel for it.) On one page, they’re blaming the government for all the problems of the middle east, and on the next, they are running a full-page ad for a Kia Sorrento. How can a magazine blast the government for securing oil supplies on one hand, and fuel the demand for products that require that very oil on the other? One way or the other, it seems that there is some dishonesty there, a fault which they constantly lambast the president for displaying. The stock answer is that the magazine is a business and must act in a way to ensure that it makes a profit. Well, fine. If the motivation is profit, then why ride the moral high-horse, if they’re just as concerned with preserving their sphere of influence as the government is? 

I still believe that the mistake made in Iraq was the timing. President Clinton should have been the one to make the case for war and have the fortitude to get the job done. Bush’s narrow ideology doesn’t take into account real-world problems, which is why I’ll be glad when he is not the president anymore.

Posted by Don Miguel  on  11/22/2005  at  04:48 PM (Link to this comment | )

whats with the middle east and green eyes

When you go to areas where the Crusaders, Alexander and others came and which also happen to be closer to Aryans, you will find that everyone is not olive-skinned and brown-eyed.

Posted by Camkrisand  on  11/24/2005  at  07:44 AM (Link to this comment | )

Don Miguel, I don’t think the Crusaders ever made it to Iraq.

Lebanon, Turkey, Western Syria and Israel and The Palestinian areas, but Iraq was beyond their reach. Minor detail, though.

Belcatar:  When did Rolling Stone start looking at itself as a serious news magazine and not just a magazine about the music industry?  I personally have never read it, but I always thought it had been about rock music.

Did it jump on the “smear Bush” bandwagon?

Posted by thefrollickingmole  on  11/24/2005  at  08:05 AM (Link to this comment | )

JakeWasHere
A minor disagreement with your statement. Bad news sells but taken completely out of any positive context it becomes not news anymore.
An example would be african famines. People believe that all that happens in Africa is starvation and massacres.
Flip across to Zimbabwe and you see a country which had a reasonble economy only now starting the road to starvation and famine.
Because the media have only printed bad news from Africa it is “business as usual” to joe public.
However if there had been some 10 years or so of moderate coverage it would be a major story instead of ho hum.
I believe that the MSM have cut their own throats by only printing the “worst thats fit to print”. Even Iraq, people expect bad news and arent particularly shocked because thats all that is expected.
I dont disagree that bad news sells, but bad news loses its “badness” if thats all thats printed.

Posted by momforbush  on  11/24/2005  at  10:11 PM (Link to this comment | )

here is another one worth looking at. God Bless the Marines!
http://www.pbase.com/nclinh/iraq_desert&page;=all

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