That was awesome. The link didn’t actually work, but if you use the link, and then go over to the main page and scroll down, you can still read it.

How can someone be that dumb? I know Mikey didn’t go to college, but for someone who claims to know as much as he does about world affairs, he’s incredibly simplistic. He forgets most of the important events he’s trying to compare Iraq to.

Just when you think Moorewatch has accomplished its mission, Michael Moore opens his mouth and it starts all over again.

I fixed the link, sorry! - JimK

The responsibility to end this war now falls upon the Democrats. Failure to do so will bring the wrath of the voters. We aren’t kidding around, Democrats, and if you don’t believe us, just go ahead and continue this war
another month. We will fight you harder than we did the Republicans.

The minority (i.e. swing voters) rules, does it now?

I love how Moore’s completely and totally refusing to calm himself down even the barest iota. He wants every single troop on the way home by tomorrow, and will brook no other viewpoint. He just gets more and more extreme the less people listen to him.

...no amount of troops or choppers or democracy shot out of the barrel of a gun is ever going to “win” the war in Iraq. It is a lost war, lost because it never had a right to be won…

This is my favorite part of Moore’s screed. Following this logic it seems that the Romans should have had a much harder time conquering most of the known world since, after all, they had no right to any of it. I guess the European and American conquests of America must also not have happened. Or it could be that who wins a war is not the same issue as which side is right, and in order to make a non-asinine argument about either, the two issues have to be separated.

By the way, hasn’t it been more than a day since Moore sent out this letter? Considering I haven’t heard about a mass and immediate pullout from Iraq, what exactly is he doing to follow through on his threats? Nothing? Gee, what a shocker.

Well, wait utill he gets around to posting more collages on his website! Then you’ll be sorry you doubted him. Maybe he’ll pull out the big guns and do Mad Magazine’s Alfred E. Neuman out of pictures of Michael J. Fox from his Family Ties days.

You know,I thought that the Russians had Afghanistan pretty much wrapped up until the U.S. began providing the Muhajideen with Stinger missles. Their pullout had more to do with the number of helicopters they were losing that it did with Kruschev having some moral epiphany where they realized how wrong their occupation was.
Only Mikey could turn the Soviet Union into a bastion of geopolitical righteousness.

We need to take lessons from the Soviet Union :)

Maybe I’m just single-minded, but how can you possibly see that Iraq will be a better place if we pull all of the troops immediately?

Maybe I’m just single-minded, but how can you possibly see that Iraq will be a better place if we pull all of the troops immediately?

I think, and I could be wrong, but I think what he is saying is, like when you have two dogs that have just met, and they are barking like crazy at each other and being super aggressive.  Depending on the dogs, sometimes, instead of fighting to hold them back, its better to just let them battle it out for a bit and get it overwith, then things will calm down.

He is completely wrong, but I think thats what he is saying.  If you were really looking for an explanation.

OK, show of hands here. Who else thinks Spongemike Sweatpants is trying to claim credit for the Dems’ victory(such as it is?)

I think Mr Moore just enjoys the sound of his own voice over the voice of reason. 

Brilliant link.

I should point out that Afghanistan was invaded some years after Khrushchev died, and quite a few years after he was removed from power.

Yeah, I KNEW I got that wrong! I just couldn’t remember what the Russian Premier’s name was during the 80’s...the one right before Gorbachev.

It started when Chernyenko was the General Secretary, and then ended with Gorbachev in power.

My mistake. But it was the Stinger Missles bringing down helicopters that changed the course of things there.

And one of the cute little unintended consequences of the Soviets’ little adventure in Afghanistan was to utterly discredit anything “Western"---even a lot of Afghan patriots ended up tarred with the “pro-Soviet” brush, precisely because the Soviets made so much noise about how they were gonna, by golly, get rid of all those quaint old tribal customs if they had to kill everybody in Afghanistan to do it. 

My major professor in college had spent years in Afghanistan with the Peace Corps before the Soviets; he always said that the Afghans were hospitable and laid-back about the whole Islam thing.  To be sure, if you openly flouted their mores you were asking for trouble, but that is true everywhere.  Afterwards, even saying that Western ways were better was like standing up and singing the Soviet national anthem. 

I wonder what Michael Moore’s take on the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was, anyway?

I wonder what Michael Moore’s take on the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was, anyway?

Well, someone who doesn’t like America did it, so he probably figures they had a good reason and did some good by it.

a little thing called the Taliban happened—the Islamist thugs who brutally oppressed their own people and gave a home to an innocuous little group called Al Qaeda

haha… indeedio… an innocuous little group set up, trained, funded and supplied by the the intelligence service of the world’s biggest state sponsor of international terrorism, the US. Probably only seconded by the UK who gave safe harbour to many leading figures in that same Database so that they could operate more effectively within Europe.

heh, go figure!

haha… indeedio… an innocuous little group set up, trained, funded and supplied by the the intelligence service of the world’s biggest state sponsor of international terrorism, the US. Probably only seconded by the UK who gave safe harbour to many leading figures in that same Database so that they could operate more effectively within Europe.
heh, go figure!

You are so full of shit that’s not even funny.  The groups of the Afghan resistance that the US funded ended up being fighters for the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance.  Hell, they even fought under the same name during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.  Go parrot bullshit liberal talking points somewhere else you fucking tool.