Wikipedia entry for Sicko

Posted by JimK on 06/13/07 at 05:54 PM

Anyone wanna take a stab at cleaning up the entry as it references this site (and me), and maybe adding this post as an external link/citation?  Somehow I think it would cause too much controversy if *I* tried to edit the page.

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Posted by Buzzion  on  06/13/2007  at  06:13 PM (Link to this comment | )

I’d be willing to lay down money that any attempts to clean that entry up and enter in the correct information will result in the moore-ons just reverting it back to the original lies and garbage?

Posted by Rann Aridorn  on  06/13/2007  at  07:08 PM (Link to this comment | )

And the wikipedia administrators conveniently locking the page when it’s been reverted to a Moore-favorable version. (Not that they’re biased or anything, nooooo.)

Posted by ncramer2120  on  06/13/2007  at  11:58 PM (Link to this comment | )

Not trying to start a fight, but the page is only semi-protected. Wikipedia does have to do this to pages that get vandalized by anonymous users. If you would like to make the page more neutral or add a criticism section you simply need to do it under a registered screen name. I do believe the article to be lacking, but I cannot fault Wikipedia as a whole for the most part many members do wish to stay neutral as do many contributers. Read the discussion page, and you will see there is a decent amount of discussion in re: Michael Moore and that the page has come under a fair amount of vandalism (i.e. someone redirected “breast implants” to his article. Also the movie page is no longer semi protected. At least it was not for me.

Posted by wolfschant  on  06/14/2007  at  01:40 AM (Link to this comment | )

Well, I did my best. You can view the entry here: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Michael_Moore

Posted by Rann Aridorn  on  06/14/2007  at  02:22 AM (Link to this comment | )

cannot fault Wikipedia as a whole for the most part many members do wish to stay neutral as do many contributers.

sides hurt
laughing too hard
oh the pain

Posted by ncramer2120  on  06/14/2007  at  02:34 AM (Link to this comment | )

Okay, okay, I was being too nice, point taken…

Posted by Piker  on  06/14/2007  at  04:39 AM (Link to this comment | )

OMG! Wolfschant that was funny as hell… I read almost half of the damn thing before I realized it wasn’t a vandalized wikipedi page…

Posted by Mike B  on  06/14/2007  at  07:03 PM (Link to this comment | )

Michael Moore accompanies a number of rescue workers injured after the World Trade Center attacks of 2001 to the U.S. Guantanamo Bay detainment camp (an American territory) to ask for health care for the 9/11 responders. When unable to receive care there, they move on to Havana, Cuba, so that they can receive medical treatment they would otherwise not be able to afford.[3] Although trip participants signed confidentiality agreements prohibiting them from talking about the trip, some thought the trip a success, with The New York Post quoting John Feal, head of the Fealgood Foundation which raises money for 9/11 first responders, that “From what I hear through the grapevine those people who went [to Cuba with Moore] are utterly happy."[4] In an interview with Time Magazine, Moore states “I’m not trumpeting Castro or his regime. I just want to say to fellow Americans, “C’mon, we’re the United States! If they can [provide care for all] we can do it."[5]

With the disclaimer here that I haven’t actually seen the film yet. This quote doesn’t say they couldn’t get care and/or didn’t get care in the US, only that they couldn’t get get care at Guantanamo, which is odd as I don’t normally think about going to a military base for care as opposed to my local doctor. It also doesn’t say and the “participants” aren’t even allowed to say whether or not they got any care in Cuba or how good it was on their own outside of Moore’s “documentary”.

Posted by meh  on  06/14/2007  at  08:17 PM (Link to this comment | )

I saw a screener for the film. That’s pretty much it in a nutshell.

You see them in a Cuban hospital, getting care. A woman only had to pay five cents for an inhaler. Of course, the cost of living adjustment wasn’t discussed, people there couldn’t afford 120$ albuterol no matter what. You get the eerie feeling that perhaps (heh!) it was all staged, the doctors are just far too attentive, but maybe I can only see this through a jaded and pessimistic eye.  On another note, when I saw the little snipe about the twelve grand, that just made me angry. If you give an anonymous donation out of the goodness of your heart, you keep it to yourself and you don’t put it in a feature film to point out what you did. I may not agree with everything you stand for, (that’s the beauty of our free society!) but I’m glad you didn’t cave to someone else because they handed you money! It shows real character, I can think of quite a few people who wouldn’t do the same in your place. Good luck and ignore all the hate mail, they just blindly hitch their reigns to whatever horse comes by.

Posted by Belcatar  on  06/14/2007  at  08:47 PM (Link to this comment | )

Horse?

I think the correct barnyard animal, the one you were thinking of, is “ass.”

Posted by crichton  on  06/15/2007  at  09:00 AM (Link to this comment | )

For all newbies, check out the website therealcuba.com and click on the healthcare page.  I will bet my life’s savings that they didn’t show those hospital rooms and patients to moore’s cameramen.

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