Go Home and Die

Posted by Lee on 05/27/08 at 06:21 AM

Here’s some more of that wonderful socialist compassion that is supposed to infuse our cousins across the Atlantic, this proving their inherent moral superiority over us.

An HIV-positive Ugandan woman’s claim to stay in the UK has been rejected by the European Court of Human Rights.

Her lawyers argued that a lack of medical care in Uganda would lead to her early death, and this would amount to cruel and degrading treatment.

The government denies this, saying all NHS HIV drugs are available in Uganda.

The court agreed that if the unnamed woman were sent back to Uganda, there would be no violation of the bar on inhuman or degrading treatment.

When the woman entered the UK in March 1998 under an assumed name, she was seriously ill and was admitted to hospital.

Soon afterwards, solicitors lodged an asylum application on her behalf, claiming she had been raped by government soldiers in Uganda because of her association with the Lord’s Resistance Army, a rebel group in the north of the country.

The lawyers argued that her life would be in danger if she were returned to Uganda.

By November 1998, she was diagnosed with two illnesses which are known to be indicators of having AIDS, and as being in an extremely advanced state of HIV infection.

Her asylum claim was rejected in March 2001, a decision she appealed against.

In rejecting her claim, the secretary of state found no evidence that Ugandan authorities were interested in her and that treatment of Aids in Uganda was comparable to any other African country.

The secretary of state also found that all the major anti-viral drugs were available in Uganda at highly subsidised prices.

In January the government sent a terminally ill Ghanaian woman who had been receiving treatment in the UK back to her country because her visa had expired.

Now, which do you think is more likely, that she was deported because of a expired viusa, or because and HIV diagnisis would reqire thirthy fo forty more years of retroviral and “drug cocktail” therapy to keep her alive, when we all know that NHS is failing miserably to provide even basic care to the citizenry.  So rather than deal with the expense of treating this woman they’re sending her back home, to her happy land full of sunshine and rainbows and rivers of chocolate, where the children dance and play with gumdrop smiles.

Full discosure:  The US has some pretty draconian laws regarding HIV people obtaining citizenship in this country.  I’m just as opposed to this as I am to what these European dickwads are doing? 

See?  That’s called “intellectual honesty.” You Moore fans should try it once in a while.

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Posted by biafra  on  05/28/2008  at  02:31 PM (Link to this comment | )

Euros know we enjoyed slavery, invented AIDS to kill blacks and gays, purged Africa of money and resources, murdered its people (mostly women and children) and therefore its only fair we repay these debts by giving whatever anyone wants/needs until they - right down to our last casino Indian - consider the score even.

Only then can the healing even begin.

Posted by McCainLovesDicks  on  05/29/2008  at  08:45 PM (Link to this comment | )

USA USA!!! Let’s invade these Brits communists jerks!! And now!! In the US we have enough honesty telling the HIV-Positive people they can die if they can’t afford the pill’s prices. Go to work lazy sick people!!

Ed. note from JimK: The INSTANT I opened registration, some childish little shit pulls this crap.

Fucking Moore fans.  Infantile to the last.  This is just one of many reasons I spend so little time here.  I’ve had it up to *here* with the childishness.

Posted by kryllen  on  06/13/2008  at  03:50 PM (Link to this comment | )

Sorry. I can’t agree. I suppose there may be some sort of a basis in the argument that they are trying to save the cost of the drugs, but this woman entered the country under an assumed name which I take to mean that she entered “illegal.” As an “illegal” alien, she should be extended no rights. I think that in this circumstance, her deportation is justifiable.

Posted by dush1  on  07/24/2008  at  04:57 AM (Link to this comment | )

As a left wing Independent reader while I can see it is undoubtably a horrible situation and in an ideal world she should stay the NHS cannot be a drop in centre for the rest of the world.  Also while I don’t agree with the way he posted it the McCainloves ... point above is interesting.  What is the care in the US like for HIV positive people who don’t have health insurance?  HIV positive people can now live to old age so will someone without health insurance get this chance or will they be excluded from the drugs that can save their lives?

Please someone tell me the truth on this one.

Posted by bismarck  on  07/24/2008  at  01:18 PM (Link to this comment | )

On a side note, seeing the words “left-wing” and “independent” (the adjective, not the paper) in the same sentence makes me chuckle. ...sorry to stray OT…

Posted by ilovecress  on  07/28/2008  at  08:56 AM (Link to this comment | )

Now, which do you think is more likely, that she was deported because of a expired viusa, or because and HIV diagnisis would reqire thirthy fo forty more years of retroviral and “drug cocktail” therapy to keep her alive, when we all know that NHS is failing miserably to provide even basic care to the citizenry

I’m going to go for the first one. I think this because everyone with an expired visa is sent back, whether they have AIDS or not. She entered ileagally, and then said she should have asylum because the government raped her. This was found to be untrue, so shes being sent back. I’m not sure where the AIDS thing comes in? Or are you arguing that people who enter a country illegally should be allowed to stay?

Sorry, this is one of the wierdest attackes on socialised helathcare I have ever seen on this site.

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