Leaving Cuba

Posted by Lee on 08/14/07 at 04:30 PM

Originally published at Reason Online.

Leaving Cuba
Michael C. Moynihan
August 14, 2007, 12:34pm

According the Melbourne Herald-Sun, Celia Guevara, Havana-based veterinarian and daughter of photogenic thug Che, was recently granted an Argentinian passport. Sources told the Buenos Aires daily Clarin that though Guevara “has no plans to leave Cuba,” she wants her sons to be able to travel freely, a privilege still reserved for the revolutionary elite. For most Cubans, taking a holiday in South Florida is, of course, rather more difficult, as evidenced by Yaditza Lopez’s recent efforts to go out on a date with her Internet boyfriend, Mr. Alex Menendez of Miami. The Miami Herald explains:

Menendez, who first saw Lopez’s photo on a website called Friends, started chatting with her online and sent her a photo of himself in May 2006. At the time, Lopez was attending a computer programming college in Havana.

As the couple kept communicating, Menendez told Lopez it would be nice if she came to Miami. When he got a call from her about 7 a.m. Friday, he was pleasantly shocked. ‘’I might marry her,’’ he said.

The 22-year-old Lopez had arrived before dawn as part of a contingent of 52 Cuban migrants, including men, women and several young children. They were wet and sunburned but happy to be in South Florida. They said they had been at sea for three days and came from all over the island.

Oddly, the 52 defectors traveling with Lopez eschewed free health care (that’s right, it’s free in Cuba!) and Fidel Castro’s 81st birthday party for an opulent cruise across the Florida Straits. Ungrateful, the lot of them.

Incidentally, Guevara, should she decide to leave her Cuba, would hardly be the first offspring of the revolution to do so. Fidel Castro’s sister Juanita lives in Miami, where, until last year, she operated the Mini-Price Pharmacy. After selling her business to CVS, the 74-year-old entrepreneur sold the vacant property for $2.2 million. Castro’s only daughter, Alina Fernandez, hosts an opposition radio show in Miami.

Astonishing, isn’t it, that any Cuban would want to give up their tropical worker’s paradise, where the healthcare is free and all medicine costs 5¢, to come to the evil kkkapitalist United States.

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Posted by Buzz  on  08/14/2007  at  05:08 PM (Link to this comment | )

Oddly, the 52 defectors traveling with Lopez eschewed free health care (that’s right, it’s free in Cuba!) and Fidel Castro’s 81st birthday party for an opulent cruise across the Florida Straits. Ungrateful, the lot of them.

What we’ve got here ... is failure to communicate.  Some men you just can’t reach . . .

Posted by Vermin  on  08/14/2007  at  06:55 PM (Link to this comment | )

...So, you get what we had here last week,
which is the way he wants it…

Posted by Buzz  on  08/14/2007  at  08:00 PM (Link to this comment | )

Well, he gets it . . .

In Cuba, you have to get your mind right.

Posted by biafra  on  08/14/2007  at  09:41 PM (Link to this comment | )

Pah. I bet you would find 1,500,000 Americans who, after watching SiCKO, would love to take her place, for free.

Posted by goddamn hippy  on  08/15/2007  at  09:13 AM (Link to this comment | )

so what exactly?

Economic migrants continue to come from Cuba to the US and Che Guevara’s daughter was granted an Argentinian passport?

This has what to do with the BS that Moore peddles?

Posted by lizbit02  on  08/15/2007  at  03:34 PM (Link to this comment | )

Astonishing, isn’t it, that any Cuban would want to give up their tropical worker’s paradise, where the healthcare is free and all medicine costs 5¢, to come to the evil kkkapitalist United States.

Does this mean that you feel the sole differnce between the United States and Cuba is how they deal with health care? Moore may misrepresent the Cuban Health Care System, but he does not talk about any other aspect of the Cuban government in his movie Sicko. Of course people from Cuba, a relatively poor nation, would want to move to the United States, arguably the richest and most powerful nation in the world. I mean come on! Perhaps I find this obvious because I don’t live in the United States and have not been bombarded with the same amount of anti-Cuba propaganda as Americans have. Not that I am saying Castro doesn’t do terrible things - he does. However, my government does allow me to buy Cuban cigars. Point is, I doubt that the cost of health care factors into a decision to emigrate from Cuba to the United States at all. If that really was so important to Cuban emmigrants, they would likely move to Europe or Canada instead, where Health Care is public. At least if that was my main concern when choosing to leave the country in which I may be tortured relentlessly for no reason at all, I would not choose to flee to the U.S. as it would not meet the free health care standard which I have set.
Posted by biafra  on  08/15/2007  at  11:50 PM (Link to this comment | )

They say that while the Cuban-staffed clinics are equipped with medicines and modern machines, public hospitals often lack basic medical equipment.

“Venezuelan doctors are underpaid and many are unemployed,” trauma specialist Pedro Carvallo told Reuters news agency.

He said many Cuban doctors do not hold proper medical qualifications.

“These Cubans are political agents who come to indoctrinate, not to work as doctors,” Mr Carvallo said.

Mr Chavez says the Cubans have accepted jobs in areas, including crime-ridden slums on the outskirts of towns, where many Venezuelans refuse to work.

Thats what Mexicans are for.

Posted by Chas  on  08/16/2007  at  09:35 PM (Link to this comment | )

If that really was so important to Cuban emmigrants, they would likely move to Europe or Canada instead, where Health Care is public. At least if that was my main concern when choosing to leave the country in which I may be tortured relentlessly for no reason at all, I would not choose to flee to the U.S. as it would not meet the free health care standard which I have set.

Do you realize how callous that sounds? Most dont choose to come to the US, it’s that we are only 90 miles way and the easiest place for them to reach that will accept them. It’s not a “move”, they are fleeing oppression! And when they get here just how will they afford to move to Europe, providing they find a country that will accept them?

Posted by Buzz  on  08/17/2007  at  01:03 PM (Link to this comment | )

Most dont choose to come to the US . . .

Have some insight as to what Cuban’s are thinking when they leave Cuba? How did you arrive at this revelation?  Do Cubans flee to Jamaica which is only 90 miles south of Cuba?
Posted by Rann Aridorn  on  08/17/2007  at  11:55 PM (Link to this comment | )

Eesh. Let’s see if that fixes it. Obviously that preview thing isn’t working for it’s intended purpose.

I love this moron’s take on things, though. “It’s not like Cubans WANT to come to sucky old America! It’s just that it’s nearby, and it will actually let them live there, and not torture them, and-”

Kid, let me ask you a serious question. What is your particular brand of stupidity? I mean, do you not quite comprehend the point of these posts, is that why? Or are you just generally deficient in intellect?

Posted by Chas  on  08/18/2007  at  12:46 AM (Link to this comment | )

Buzz,

Some cubans do flee to Jamaica. I dont know the exact laws on cubans seeking asylum in Jamaica but its not as generous as the U.S. where we take them in w/o much in the way of questions. But they have to reach dry ground. For some reason a bridge piling doesnt count. I do remember reading a story a couple of years back about some cubans waiting in Jamaica for their asylum case to be heard, or it had been heard. something about not sending them back until after Christmas.

Posted by Buzz  on  08/19/2007  at  09:21 AM (Link to this comment | )

In 2000, of the 31.1 million foreign born people in the United States, about 2,953,066 (9.5 percent) were born in Caribbean countries.

By the year 2000, there were over 2.9 million people born in Caribbean countries living in the U.S. The largest population of those people were Cubans (just under 30%). The 3rd largest population of those people were born in Jamaica ( just under 19%).

In 1999, the total number of refugees from all countries living in Jamaica was 25.  And while most of those refugees were from Cuba, it’s a well-known fact that Jamaica is a transit point for those trying to get to the U.S.  (By the way, we deported 2,122 Jamaicans from the U.S. in 2002.)

If the total number of people born in Cuba, but living in the U.S. was 872,715 during the year 2000, and the total number of migrants (some of them Cubans) living in Jamaica during that same year was about 13,000, and both countries are 90 miles from Cuba, then where do you think Cubans want to go?

Given the fact from 1990 to 2000, 229,140 Cubans came to the U.S. instead of going to Jamaica, I think the figures speak for themselves.

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