Two Emails
I just received two emails, one right after the other. They are the polar opposites of each other. One is from someone with a perfectly legitimate question, and in return she receives a perfectly legitimate answer. The other is a typical Canadian Michael Moore-worshipping moron. The first:
I have read your site for the last few hours. I admit, you do have some excellent view points, but between you three it seems to be a tug a war on one sidedness opinions. You guys express it through your site, and Moore expresses it through his films. Now about Moore generosity, well we all know that was more the sake of the movie, and to get attention to him and his ideas. But if you are here to argue his beliefs amd bash him to the ground, you need to consider what he has done for you besides his little donation, he not only allowed you to get more hits to your site, and allow people to see your view points but allowed people to make a “choice” by deciding what we want to believe in, stand for. He is allowing us to choose, to make a choice between the point of views. right or wrong? then again, is there a right or wrong between you three??? I beg to differ.
My response:
Vivian, thanks for a pretty reasonable question.
Let me put it like this. Name ONE THING in Sicko which expressed, in any manner, that there is a downside to socialized medicine. Name one. You can’t, because there isn’t any. This is why I say on the site that Moore has no interest whatsoever in actually seeing people get quality healthcare. He wants to see people get healthcare *through socialism.* That’s his primary goal, to see his grand socialist plan implemented. In order to do so he has to ignore all the negatives, and present socialized medicine as some kind of medical Disneyland, where people will come to your house and wipe your ass for you if you choose, and it’s all FREE FREE FREE!
Now, by way of comparison, Jim and I freely admit that the current US system sucks. We also make the case that socialized medicine, far from being the utopian paradise portrayed by Moore, is just as bad, if not worse. So the solution is not to abandon one shitty system (the US) for a system which is, at best, equally shitty (European and Canadian).
Moore’s trickery has made this appear like a two-sided coin: one one side are the bloodthirsty evil capitalists and their for-profit healthcare system, and on the other are the kindly, benevolent government-run systems, which never deny anything to anyone. The impression left in the viewers mind is “Wow, if I care about people then how can I support anything but socialized medicine?” Search our site, you’ll find countless horror stories about socialized medicine—people pulling their own teeth out with pliers because they couldn’t get in to see a dentist, nurses merely turning sheets over between patients to save on laundry costs, rationing schemes which send old people home to die because it would cost too much in limited resources, and so on.
Again, was ANY of this mentioned in Moore’s film? No, of course not. Because it was a two hour lie.
So, in this respect, does Moore actually give you a choice of what to believe in? Or does he lie, distort, obfuscate, bullshit, and *trick* you into believing what he wants you to believe? And if socialized medicine is so wonderful, why does he need to present such a distorted and inaccurate version of its reality? These are the real questions you should be asking yourself.
Take care.
And now, the clueless Canadian moore-on.
From:
Subj: Once again, the stupidity of United States is shinning throughThank you MR. MOORE, you have again opened the eyes of many and shut the ones that are already blind. Blinded by stupidity. Michael Moore is one of the best things that is happening in the states. Its pretty sad when people from the states have to sneak across the border, lie and say that they are Canadians just to get treatment they think they deserve. Well if you are so deserving of this treatment, look to your own government for help. You think that your land is the best, everything in the states are better than everyone else, WOW do you people need an awakening! How much more stupid can you people get, you support a government that cares more about war then its own people. They even treat the terrorist with better health care than they give their own people. Hello? should that not tell you something. Its really a shame that you people can only see whats in front of you. Take off the blinders, the rose colored glasses. Hey, there is a world out there, other countries that do look after their own. Theres alot about this SiCKO film that alot of you americans can learn alot from. Take notes, that is if you can read or write!
First off, I would be willing to bet that I have lived in more countries than this dunce will ever visit in her entire life. Secondly, the Canadian inferiority complex is clearly evident here. And third, the fact that there is an entire healthcare industry in Canada whose sole purpose is to find medical care in the United States for Canadians who are stuck for years on waiting lists shows that this woman clearly has absolutely no idea what she is talking about. In other words, she’s a typical Moore fan.
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I do not believe that the fans of sicko understand the complete package of socialized health care. I was stationed in Germany with the army where they have a socialized health care system in place. The German’s income tax is approx. 50%. 50%!!!! Yes some of it goes to their uneployment system and to other systems in place but it is all based on socialism in general. They sign contracts with their employers and if they get fired they continue recieving paychecks. Even the homeless are getting checks. I do not believe that us as Americans and Capitalist want to give up half our paycheck to Uncle Sam. I mean people are ******** about taxes already! Second of all Mr. Moore does not go into the bad sides of any of the Health Care Systems he features in his films. SPECIALLY not Cuba. How are you going to go from showing beat up rusty 50’s style cars and horrible housing to this state of the art hospital. One of my friends from the military, who is a Cuban immigrant, told me horror stories of the medical practice over there. Moore did not lie when he explained Castros generosity of his doctors, he did offer a couple thousand to aide in the Katrina aftermath. But, of course we have to stick to our guns and show that we don’t need their commie help. I as you, believe we need change but I don’t believe that a complete socialized health care system is the way. If only our government could make laws against the overcharging and screwing of people. That is all I have to say.