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Wednesday, June 30, 2004

A Ticket for Bush

Posted by Lee on 06/30/04 at 03:25 PM

The following was originally published at Scrappleface.  And for you tight-assed Moore-ons out there, this is a parody.

Spider-Man 2 Conspires to Silence Michael Moore
by Scott Ott

(2004-06-30)—Spider-Man 2 is part of “a web of deception, a conspiracy to silence” Oscar-winning documentarist Michael Moore, according to the filmmaker whose Fahrenheit 9/11 is America’s current number one box office smash.

“It’s not just the cynical timing of the release of Spider-Man 2,” said Mr. Moore, “but the movie endorses the unilateral and so-called righteous use of power to overcome so-called evil. This is a thinly-veiled rebuttal of Fahrenheit 9/11 and the entire security plank of the Democrat National Committee platform.”

Mr. Moore added that buying a ticket to Spider-Man 2 is “tantamount to voting for George Bush.”


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Dude, Where’s My Iraq?

Posted by Lee on 06/30/04 at 02:09 PM

Well-heeled western liberals and Michael Moore fans might not understand President Bush’s Middle East strategy, but the terrorists do.  An authenticated al Qaeda “strategy document” lays out the organization’s plan for Iraq.

“We consider that the Spanish government cannot suffer more than two to three strikes before pulling out (of Iraq) under pressure from its own people,” said the document obtained Wednesday by AFP from Raido France International’s regional office in Beirut.

“If these (Spanish) forces remain after the strikes, the victory of the socialist party would be near-guaranteed and the pullout of Spanish forces from Iraq would be on its agenda,” said the document, distributed ahead of the March 11 attacks in Madrid.

Socialist Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, elected after the train bombings in Madrid which left 191 people dead in Spain’s worst ever terrorist attack, withdrew Spanish troops from the troubled country in May.

So, their strategy worked, as we all know.  And what of the rest of the coalition?

A lengthy chapter of the document focuses on “the main allies of the United States in their aggression against Iraq: Britain, Italy, Poland and Spain, as well as some Arab countries.” ...

It called for striking US forces in Iraq on a daily basis in order to force them “to disperse on the territory, weaken their efficiency and strike the morale of the soldiers.”

“The operations should be concentrated on the Arab Sunni sector… (given) the absence of motives for the explosion of the situation in the Shiite southern regions and the Kurdish north,” it said.

The booklet, presented as a handbook for the “Mujahedeen,” called on the “Iraqi resistance (to form) a movement which gathers the factions of the Jihad… and unite in the same objective, as currently they are not united in the same organisation.”

“The Mujahedeens in Iraq should now concentrate on the complete pullout of all foreign forces from all Iraqi territory,” it said.

In other words, they will commit acts of terrorism in order to weaken and demoralize US resolve to see the job through.  But the most telling aspect of the article, for me, came right at the end.

It said the US plan was “to build an Iraqi state as conceived by the United States...and enslave Saudi Arabia politically, fight against Islamic proselytism as a salafist and jihadic movement.”

“This would be (for the US) the first step toward the eradication of hardline Islam in the entire world,” it said.

This is what conservatives have been saying all along, that Iraq was simply the first step in the overall task of modernizing the Middle East and destroying Islamism.  This idea has, as usual, been poo-pooed by the left-wing intelligentsia, but as you can see here, the terrorists understand what is at stake.  A free Iraq, with free-flowing oil, means less money and power and influence for Saudi Arabia.  (You know Saudi Arabia, the country that Michael Moore says Bush is beholden to.) A free Iraq and a weak Saudi Arabia gives America and the rest of the free world an excellent vantage point from which to “fight against Islamic proselytism as a salafist and jihadic movement.”

This is why the invasion of Iraq was and still is so essential to the broader war on terror.  It is “the first step toward the eradication of hardline Islam in the entire world.”

Salafist movements are what Daniel Pipes refers to as Islamist, essentially being a form of theological fascism based upon a perverted form of Islam.  This is what al Qaeda is fighting for.  Lefties might not get it, but the bad guys do, and they’re willing to fight to the death.  The only way to win is to kill them first.


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Top Ten

Posted by Lee on 06/30/04 at 10:53 AM

David Letterman’s Top Ten List of Bush complaints about F911.

Top 10 George W. Bush Complaints About “Fahrenheit 9/11”

10. That actor who played the president was totally unconvincing.

9. It oversimplified the way I stole the election.

8. Too many of them fancy college-boy words

7. If Michael Moore had waited a few months, he could have included the part where I get him deported.

6. Didn’t have one of them hilarious monkeys who smoke cigarettes and gives people the finger.

5. Of all Michael Moore’s accusations, only 97% are true.

4. Not sure - I passed out after a piece of popcorn lodged in my windpipe.

3. Where the hell was Spiderman?

2. Couldn’t hear most of the movie over Cheney’s foul mouth.

1. I thought this was supposed to be about dodgeball!”


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Taliban Pipe Dream, Part II

Posted by Lee on 06/30/04 at 10:25 AM

Following up on this post, an alert reader named Christopher F. Zeineh has done some digging and come up with some evidence of his own.

Lee,

I’ve checked out your post on the Bush/Taliban conspiracy forwarded by Moore and I’ve come up with some very interesting results, particularly about Moore’s claim that Bush was especially cushy with the Taliban and passed up a chance to get Bin Laden.

First, regarding the following Moore quote about the Taliban link:

“Even though the United Nations recognized the alliance as the legitimate government of Afghanistan, the Bush administration, with oil at the forefront of its goals, decided to follow the lead of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and curry favor with the Taliban mullahs of Afghanistan.”

A few problems with this:

1. America didn’t recognize any government of Afghanistan, including the Taliban.  This makes sense; even though the Taliban could not be recognized as a legitimate government because of their violent rise to power, the Norther Alliance couldn’t be recognized as such either because they did not control the country at this point.  Take a look at the State Department website.

“The State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said that working-level State Department officials met with Said Ramatullah Hashemi from the Taliban Foreign Ministry in Washington March 19.

“‘The meetings don’t imply any recognition of the Taliban. We don’t recognize any government in Afghanistan,’ Boucher said.”

2. The above link also shows that the Bush administration was actively pursuing an agreement to get Bin Laden transferred out of the country for apprehension, but that the Taliban did not propose anything that would adequately do so in accordance with UNSC Resolution 1333.

“There was no specific proposal, and therefore we don’t have any specific response. We have not seen from the Taliban a proposal that would meet the requirements of the United Nations resolutions to hand over Usama bin Laden to a country where he can be brought to justice.”

Remember this point for later.

3. When you’re trying to negotiate the handover of Osama Bin Laden, it would do no good getting cozy with the Northern Alliance, as they weren’t the ones harboring him.  So, we logically went to the bargaining table with the Taliban. In retrospect, we should have obliterated them much earlier, but that would place blame on Clinton as well as Bush, and what fun would that be for Moore?


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Fiskle and Ebert

Posted by Lee on 06/30/04 at 03:42 AM

It’s a blogger’s round up of what some reviewers said about Passion of the Christ and what they later said about F911.  Not surprisingly, everything they hated about Passion is everything they loved about F911.  Here’s a taste.

William Wolf, Wolf Entertainment:

F9/11: Anyone watching it might be stirred in the face of the total picture presented, especially on the mess the nation was misled into in what increasingly been coming apparent as a giant, costly fiasco and a diversion from the real fight against terrorism.

Passion: Gibson has every right to any interpretation he chooses and to make the film he envisions. But the rest of us have the right, and perhaps the obligation, to complain about his narrowly focused, extremely violent, ultimately exploitative personal indulgence.

Just the latest example of that conservative media at work, right Moore-ons?


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Exploitation

Posted by Lee on 06/30/04 at 02:24 AM

The following was originally published at Tech Central Station.

The Exploitation Flick Returns
By Jon Haber
06/29/2004

Fifty years ago, exploitation movie pioneer Kroger Babb lost his shirt trying unsuccessfully to hawk his premier product, an alleged sex film entitled Mom and Dad, to New York sophisticates. What might this episode teach us about Babb’s contemporary surrogate, Michael Moore, director of Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11?

While contemporary readers think of “exploitation” as a generic term, historically the “exploitation film” was a product created by a largely unknown industry to fill a specific niche. During the era when many downtown cinemas (and eventually drive-in theatres) were independent and locally controlled, a film production and distribution world that existed separately from Hollywood served to fill the need for a more puerile product than Tinseltown provided.


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Jackass

Posted by Lee on 06/30/04 at 02:18 AM

The following was originally published at IMAO.

Those Records Ain’t Broken… They’re Not Even Scratched

Some are saying that Fahrenheit 9/11 set records for a documentary, being the first ever to debut in the number one spot and already having the highest gross for a documentary with $21.8 million over the weekend. I looked it up, though, and it is total bunk. If marginally staged events filmed for entertainment value is what makes a documentary, then Jackass the Movie actually set those records. It debuted at number one with a gross of $22.8 million. It also had less erroneous assertions than a Michael Moore documentary.

Yeah, that’s right; we’re the blogosphere and we’ll fact-check your ass (and with Michael Moore, that’s a - ah, forget it; obvious joke)


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It’s All About the Oil

Posted by Lee on 06/30/04 at 02:04 AM

From Iraqi blogger Iraq the Model.

I was on duty-call in the hospital all yesterday and I was in the ward when I heard the news that Mr. Bremer had already transferred the power to the new government two days ahead of the expected date. I was so happy about this news and I couldn’t wait until I finish my tour to celebrate the occasion.

My friends all seemed thrilled and optimistic, yet they seemed to have no interset in celebrating the event. I decided to do something so I asked one of my colleagues to cover for me for an hour; I told him that I have to get something from outside.I directly headed to the nearest bakery and ordered a nice cake and returned to the hospital as fast as I could. On the way, I didn’t see any large calibrations but I noticed that the streets were busier than usual and people looked lively and relaxed.

I invited some of my friends, one of us volunteered to get some beverages and we gathered around the cake to celebrate the happy event. I took some pictures but sadly not all the doctors (female mainly) agreed on me posting their pictures and I’ll respect their will.

Some of us were celebrating regaining sovereignty, some were celebrating the end of occupation, others were happy because they think the new government will bring safety and order. I was celebrating a new and a great step towards democracy, but we were all joined by true hope for a better future and by the love we have for Iraq.

After wards we sat for a while discussing different matters. The hall was busy and everyone was chatting and laughing loud. They had Al-Jazeera on (something I never managed to convince them to stop doing). Then suddenly Mr. Bremer appeared on TV reading his last speech before he left Iraq. I approached the TV to listen carefully to the speech, as I expected it to be difficult in the midst of all that noise. To my surprise everyone stopped what they were doing and started watching as attentively as I was.

The speech was impressive and you could hear the sound of a needle if one had dropped it at that time. The most sensational moment was the end of the speech when Mr. Bremer used a famous Arab emotional poem. The poem was for a famous Arab poet who said it while leaving Baghdad. Al-Jazeera had put an interpreter who tried to translate even the Arabic poem which Mr. Bremer was telling in a fair Arabic! “Let this damned interpreter shut up. We want to hear what the man is saying” One of my colloquies shouted. The scene was very touching that the guy sitting next to me (who used to sympathize with Muqtada) said “He’s going to make me cry!”

Then he finished his speech by saying in Arabic,”A’ash Al-Iraq, A’ash Al-Iraq, A’ash Al-Iraq”! (Long live Iraq, Long live Iraq, long live Iraq).

I was deeply moved by this great man’s words but I couldn’t prevent myself from watching the effect of his words on my friends who some of them were anti-Americans and some were skeptic, although some of them have always shared my optimism. I found that they were touched even more deeply than I was. I turned to one friend who was a committed She’at and who distrusted America all the way. He looked as if he was bewitched, and I asked him, “So, what do you think of this man? Do you still consider him an invader?” My friend smiled, still touched and said, “Absolutely not! He brought tears to my eyes. God bless him.”

Another friend approached me. This one was not religious but he was one of the conspiracy theory believers. He put his hands on my shoulders and said smiling, “I must admit that I’m beginning to believe in what you’ve been telling us for months and I’m beginning to have faith in America. I never thought that they will hand us sovereignty in time. These people have shown that they keep their promises.”

Think about this, Moore fans.  If Mike had his way these people would still be being thrown feet-first into the plastic shredder, their children would still be having their feet smashed with hammers in front of their parents, and who knows how many people would disappear into unmarked graves.

But, of course, we could have gotten another worthless UN resolution and waited another 20 or 30 years.  The Iraqi people would still be suffering, but at least well-heeled western leftists would feel better about themselves.


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Taliban Pipe Dream

Posted by Lee on 06/30/04 at 01:04 AM

It’s time to point out another of Michael Moore’s whopping lies and distortions.  This one concerns the Taliban’s trip to Texas.  (In the quoted text below, NARRATOR is Michael Moore.)

NARRATOR: Or was the war in Afghanistan really about something else? Perhaps the answer was in Houston, Texas. In 1997 while George W. Bush was Governor of Texas, a delegation of Taliban leaders from Afghanistan flew to Houston to meet with Unocal executives to discuss the building of a pipeline through Afghanistan bringing natural gas from the Caspian Sea. And who got a Caspian Sea drilling contract the same day Unocal signed the pipeline deal? A company headed by a man named Dick Cheney: Halliburton.

In 1997 George W. Bush was indeed Governor of Texas, and Bill Clinton (a Democrat) was President of the United States.  Note that Moore does not state that Bush had anything to do with the Taliban meeting, because Bush indeed had nothing to do with it.  He only states that Bush was governor at the time (a fact), thereby implying that he had something to do with the meeting (a lie).  The Taliban’s entry into the United States was requested by the Unocal corporation and cleared by Clinton’s State Department.

As far as Unocal and the pipeline deal goes, according to everything I can find Unocal pulled out of the deal.  This BBC article from May 30, 2002, states, “The US company Unocal led a consortium in the 1990s which undertook feasibility studies, but it pulled out of the project in 1998.” When the pipeline deal was signed in 2002, Unocal issued this press release denying their involvement.  “Unocal Chairman Charles R. Williamson told Unocal stockholders today that Unocal has no plans or interest in becoming involved in any projects in Afghanistan, including natural gas or crude oil pipelines. He made the statement in response to recent erroneous news reports about Unocal and the pipeline project in Afghanistan.”


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Part Deux

Posted by Lee on 06/30/04 at 12:39 AM

Following up on this post from this morning, Red Line Rants has posted part 2 of their transcript of F911.

I offer my heartfelt thanks for the service RLR is providing to the blogosphere, and the cause of fact-checking Michael Moore.


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Tuesday, June 29, 2004

Commie Propaganda

Posted by Lee on 06/29/04 at 11:11 PM

I would now like to present some communist propaganda.

LOS ANGELES, June 29 (Xinhuanet)—Controversial US director Michael Moore said Tuesday that “Fahrenheit 9/11,” his scathing documentary about US President George W. Bush and the US-led war on Iraq, appealed to not only Bush critics, but Bush supporters as well.

“Fahrenheit 9/11,” which became the first documentary to rule North America box office over the weekend, ranked No. 1 in each state that voted for Bush in the 2000 election, Moore said in an interview on PBS TV Tuesday night.

“After seeing all the numbers, all the exit polls and surveys they do of people coming to see it, it was clear to me that a lot of people in this country want some questions answered and are unhappy about what’s going on,” Moore told talk show host Tavis Smiley.

“Fahrenheit 9/11,” which won the top prize at the Cannes Film Festival in May, has set a record for a documentary by earning 23.9 million US dollars over the weekend at North America box office, more than the gross of Moore’s 2003 Oscar winning documentary “Bowling for Columbine.”

Due to its scathing attacks on Bush’s reaction to the Sept. 11 terror attacks and the launching of unprovoked war on Iraq, “Fahrenheit 9/11” has raged the Bush campaign and some Bush supporters even organized to boycott the movie. The Disney Company even refused to distribute the film due to fear of political repercussions.

But Moore said the efforts to block the film’s distribution and advertising worked to his advantage. “All they did was give more publicity for the film and made more people aware of it,” he said.

I will leave it to you, gentle reader, to determines whether the communist propaganda comes from Xinhua or Mikey himself.


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Why We Were There

Posted by Lee on 06/29/04 at 07:05 PM

The following was originally published at Strategy Page.  This is the type of opinion not reported by either Michael Moore or the allegedly pro-war media.

No One Asked Us
by Stan Coerr

George Bush coalesced American support behind invading Iraq, I am told, using two arguments: Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and the capability to deliver them, and Iraq was a supporter of Al-Qaeda terrorism, and may have been involved in the attacks of 9/11. Vicious words and gratuitous finger-pointing keep falling back on these points, as people insist that “we” were misled into what started as a dynamic liberation and has become a bloody counterinsurgency. Watching politicians declaim and hearing television experts expound on why we went to war and on their opinions of those running the White House and Defense Department, I have one question. When is someone going to ask the guys who were there?

What about the opinions of those whose lives were on the line, massed on the Iraq-Kuwait border beginning in February of last year? I don’t know how President Bush got the country behind him, because at the time I was living in a hole in the dirt in northern Kuwait. Why have I not heard a word from anyone who actually carried a rifle or flew a plane into bad guy country last year, and who has since had to deal with the ugly aftermath of a violent liberation? What about the guys who had the most to lose? What do they think about all this? 


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The final word on the Uniformed Secret Service

Posted by JimK on 06/29/04 at 05:00 PM

He’re a good example of Moore carefully crafting language to give you an impression that is, to put it bluntly, not the truth.  This is not a lie per se, but rather a distortion, a manipulation, a gentle nudge and a wink to make you believe something sinister is going on so that you take the rest of his allegations all the more seriously. I am going to categorize it in “F911 Lies” and “Polemics” since it is straddling the fence of both categories.


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Another lie

Posted by JimK on 06/29/04 at 03:09 PM

paratrooper found something interesting…

Here’s the first actual lie I found in the movie transcript. Not only is it factually untrue, but it’s also wrong in spirit. The Presidency travels with the President. He had daily security briefings ( except sunday). His staff was with him, along with a bunch of reporters. He did work most days, and TRAVELED away from the ranch.

He did not stay at the ranch for the rest of August. He was in and out.

FROM THE MOVIE:

George Bush spent the rest of August at the ranch where life was less complicated.

This is said to give the impression that Bush wasn’t working for a whole month,and never traveled away from the ranch.

BUT.............

From the Official White House Press Briefing for August travel arrangements;

While in Texas, he will have a working vacation there. I was going to do this at the end of the briefing. Let me give you some information now. But the President will travel for approximately two days a week each week during his visit to Texas. The upcoming week, he will travel one day to build a house in nearby Waco, Texas, to participate in a Habitat for Humanity event.

The following week, the President will travel to Colorado and New Mexico. The week following that, the President will travel roughly three days to Wisconsin and other locations TBD. He’ll also travel to Pennsylvania that week.

The following week, the President will have an event in nearby San Antonio, and you can also anticipate travel overLabor Day weekend to some unnamed cities as of this point.

Now, before you asshats say “Is that the best you can do?”

I must say , yes.

That’s the best I can do with the first 4 minutes of the movie.

Now.............to minute 5.

Yep.  That there looks like a lie.


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Only 3,000

Posted by Lee on 06/29/04 at 02:57 PM

Former mayor of New York City Ed Koch has penned an op-ed about Michael Moore and F911.  If there is ever anything that sheds light on the type of person Michael Moore really is, it is this exchange relayed by Koch.

A year after 9/11, I was part of a panel discussion on BBC-TV’s “Question Time” show which aired live in the United Kingdom. A portion of my commentary at that time follows:

“One of the panelists was Michael Moore, writer and director of the award-winning documentary “Roger & Me.” During the warm-up before the studio audience, Moore said something along the lines of “I don’t know why we are making so much of an act of terror. It is three times more likely that you will be struck by lightening than die from an act of terror.” I was aghast and responded, “I think what you have said is outrageous, particularly when we are today commemorating the deaths of 3,000 people resulting from an act of terror.” I mention this exchange because it was not televised, occurring as it did before the show went live. It shows where he was coming from long before he produced “Fahrenheit 9/11.”

We’ve known where Mikey was coming from for a long time, and his anti-American hate fest of a film shows it.  And lest any of you Moore-ons accuse Koch of lying, let’s apply the very same standard you use constantly in defense of your hero: if it wasn’t true, Mikey would have sued him for libel.


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Questions for Moore fans re: Flint

Posted by JimK on 06/29/04 at 02:52 PM

- Keep your answers short and on topic
- Anyone changing the subject or going off on tangents will find their comments removed.  You are welcome to respond again under the above guideline if your comment is removed.
- Do not speculate in the comments as to what these questions are about.  Just answer them truthfully.

If you already know where this is going, my fellow MOOREWATCHERS...keep it to yourself.  I want to see real, honest, unaffected answers here with no back and forth nonsense or other people trying to influence or argue.

Just answer the questions simply and honestly.

1. Is Michael Moore’s persona, meaning his values, his personality, his politics, the way he presents himself, part and parcel of having grown up in Flint, Michigan? 

2. Does being from Flint, which is so economically distressed and has been for decades, define a lot of who he is at his core? 

3. Is it important, or perhaps even inspirational, to you that Moore has come up from the despair of Flint to become such a successful filmmaker?


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Clarification of the rules

Posted by JimK on 06/29/04 at 02:31 PM

The ass-kissing mouthy kid in class just spoiled it for the rest of us.  Remember how annoying that kid was?

I have never given much thought to the default agreement one must click in order to sign up here.  It simply hadn’t occurred to me.  Until one of our resident critics decided to make a big stink about the use of profanity and insults.

Now I’m paying attention.


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Gentlemen, Start Your Fisking

Posted by Lee on 06/29/04 at 12:09 PM

An intreipd blogger has assumed the arduous task of transcribing all of F911, since Mikey won’t produce a transcript himself. 

If you read through this and find a lie, distortion, or other factual deficiency, if you send it to us we’ll post it on the site, fully accredited to you of course.  Let the fisking begin!


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A straight-up lie

Posted by JimK on 06/29/04 at 10:56 AM

A popular statement around MOOREWATCH from Mike’s fans is that there are no lies in F911.  Tracking down all of Moore’s claims about financial dealings will take time.  However, there is one easy-to-catch lie, and we all know about it already.  Mike himself gave us the information needed to catch him in this lie.

In the film, Michael Moore confronts Congressional Representative Mark Kennedy and asks him to help get Congress to sign up their kids for the Army, Marine Corps, etc.  Mark Kennedy looks at him funny, and there is a badly-placed jump edit right there.  Moore then moves on to asking other members of Congress, who all appear to ignore him and walk away. 

And then we get the voiceover:

“Of course, not a single member of Congress wanted to sacrifice their child for the war in Iraq.”

Look at that again.  “Of course, not a single member of Congress wanted to sacrifice their child for the war in Iraq.”

Is that factually accurate?  Let’s look at the exchange between Rep. Kennedy and Moore, which was provided by Moore himself:

CONGRESSMAN KENNEDY How are you doing?

MM: I’m trying to get members of congress to get their kids to enlist
in the army and go over to Iraq. Is there any way you could help me
with that?

CONGRESSMAN KENNEDY: How would I help you?

MM: Pass it out to other members of congress.

CONGRESSMAN KENNEDY: I’d be happy to. Especially those who voted for the war.

CONGRESSMAN KENNEDY: I have a nephew on his way to Afghanistan.

MM: Because there is only one member who has a kid over there in Iraq.
This is Corporal Henderson, he is helping me out here.

CONGRESSMAN KENNEDY: How are you, good to see you.

MM: There it is, it’s just a basic recruitment thing. Encourage
especially those who were in favor of the war to send their kids. I
appreciate it.

CONGRESSMAN KENNEDY: Okay, bye.

Well, well, well.  Look at that.  Let’s look closely at this exchange.

MM: Is there any way you could help me
with that?

CONGRESSMAN KENNEDY: How would I help you?

MM: Pass it out to other members of congress.

CONGRESSMAN KENNEDY: I’d be happy to. Especially those who voted for the war.

This exchange was edited out of the film entirely, and instead Kennedy’s meeting with Moore is lumped in with all the Congressmen that seemed to be ducking him.  Now that could be considered a lie of omission.  He made Kennedy look like all the the Congressmen who didn’t stop.

Except that Kennedy not only spoke to him, but he offered to help. He has family in the military, on who, in Kennedy’s own words, is deployed.  Not just enlisted, but deployed.  He did not say where, but deployed has a specific meaning that doesn’t equal “one weekend a month” in the National Guard.

Cue the voiceover: “Of course, not a single member of Congress wanted to sacrifice their child for the war in Iraq.”

No matter how you try to spin that, it’s a lie.  Moore himself admits that there is in fact ONE member of congress with a child in Iraq.

Is it a major, life-altering, call-your-momma lie?  No, but most of Moore’s blatant lies aren’t.  Stack a hundred of these little lies up, and you got yourself a movie though, don’t you?  A sensationalistic campaign attack ad that purports to be 100% truthful.

Well, however minor, I’ve proven here that there is indeed one rock-solid lie in F911.  And Moore’s own words, and the release of the transcript with Kennedy, make the case in a way that no one can deny without looking like a fool.  Moore lied.  Plain and simple.  Kennedy was willing to help recruit Congressional member’s children.  He has a nephew that is deployed as we speak.  Moore himself admits that there is one other Congressional child serving.

That’s out of a base of 550 people, not all of whom have children.

Mikey, I beg of you...get your “war room” fired up and try to dispute this.  I’d love to see the good Congressman get up in your face on national television can have you call him a liar to his face.  Bottom line, Mikester, if you say no one offered to help, you’re lying.  If you admit Kennedy offered to help, which you have...you lied in the film.

I feel sorry for the people you fool with that “Of course, not a single member of Congress wanted to sacrifice their child for the war in Iraq.” crap.  Two of them are, and Kennedy was willing to help you recruit.  But that blew the screen value of your little piece.  Instead of being an HONEST filmmaker and including it...you simply took off the part that didn’t fit what you wanted.

You owe everyone, but most of all Representative Kennedy, an apology.


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Burning the Democrats

Posted by Lee on 06/29/04 at 02:48 AM

The following was originally published at Bloomberg.

Will `Fahrenheit 9/11’ Burn the Democrats?
by Andrew Ferguson

June 29 (Bloomberg)—A political activist rang me up and told me I had to see the new documentary about the president.

``It’s chilling,’’ he said. ``It shows what a slimeball this guy is.’’

So I saw the movie, and it was—how to put this?—a crock. Watching it I thought: Whoever produced this slanderous mess deserves to be run out of polite society.

That was 10 years ago, and the documentary was a slapdash confection of lies and innuendo called ``The Clinton Chronicles.’’

It accused Bill Clinton—slyly and indirectly—of drug- running and worse. There was no evidence but lots of insinuation, a series of meaningless coincidences presented in breathless tones so the weak-minded might connect dots that weren’t there.

Now the U.S. is being treated to the same kind of exercise, on a much grander scale, with Michael Moore’s scabrous ``Fahrenheit 9/11.’’ And once again weak-minded ideologues are lapping it up like hungry pups.


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