You’re just trying to trick us into visiting the “corn porn” site, aren’t you? Well it doesn’t have much to do with corn.

I wonder how Mikey is doing on his diet. I think I know the key for Mikey to lose weight. He has a problem with teling the truth so if he went out and said to everyone he knew that he wanted to GAIN 100 lbs. I bet he would end up losing 100 lbs.

Sorry to be OT and so soon, but

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ibd/20060216/bs_ibd_ibd/2006215issues

This is a must read.

This is a must read.

Thanks, witchndigger. I first saw the story of the secret tapes in the NY Post, but haven’t seen much mention of it on any major networks, or other papers.
(Gee golly willickers, what a shock!!!)

Anyway, this just cements the point I’ve been making for a long time now.
We’ve fallen into a trap of apologizing for the WMD situation, many of us even becoming brainwashed by the ubiquitous liberal tripe that it was never there to start with… which we now know it was.
Nyah nyah nyah ...so there.

Can we now turn the tables around, and sit in coffee shops ourselves, starting every sentence with, “Since we all know the WMD’s were there all along...” ...?

I’d sure like to try. It’ll be fun to watch the little lefties’ heads explode.

Does anyone else find it incredibly hypocritical of Moore to make a film “Sicko” that criticizes the healthcare system in this country when he himself is overweight and unhealthy?  Not to mention incredibly wealthy and can afford the best healthcare?  If He cares so much about healthcare for the poor, why doesn’t he put all those out of work citizens in his “hometown” of Flint, Michigan on his healthcare plan?  Or better yet, simply pay for all their healthcare out of his own pocket?

You have a good point there, yngcelt.

Good article, witchn.  I hope it pans out int the media on both sides of the atlantic.

Back on topic, this certainly comes as no surprise.  Though, I don’t want to know if he shits a “floater”, much less take samples for investigation…

Heather Graham was a shagadelic reason for watching that movie.

So the liberals might have been made a fool of by Saddam Hussein.  Irony is wonderful sometimes.

yngcelt -You expressed my first thoughts exactly! How can Moore make a movie about our healthcare system when he is not exactly the poster child for health and fitness?
Witchn - I thought I had heard SOMETHING on the news, BRIEFLY, about them finding audiotapes with Saddam’s addmission of having WMDs, but as Artmonkey stated, is it ANY big surprise that our media is not capitalizing on this story to revoke the Lefts view that the WMDs did not exist?! Our Liberal media actually state the truth, or at least report, about some evidence that has come to light about WMDs? Good gracious...if that happened, I think I would have to hunker down and wait for the horsemen to start coming from the sky!
Let’s see Ms. Sheahan’s response to THIS news!!!

One last thought on the WMD matter: is it any wonder that George W. has been so calm and collected since he shipped our troops to Iraq, then ordered them to attack? He has known all along what is now being exposed as the truth: Saddam had the WMDs. My hats off to the president for sticking to his guns and never bending in what he knew to be true! He knew he wouldbe vindicated!!!

Re:  WMD yahoo article -

I usually go into the “Discuss” portion of yahoo news articles...and read the moonbat ravings...but there are no messages coming up when I go there for this article. 

Is it just my browser acting up?  Or does anyone else have the same thing?  Very strange....either my browser is messed up...their mechanics are not working right...or MAYBE there’s a news piece that finally shuts the liberals up for once! ..... Umm...Nah, maybe it’s just the server.

Sorry - OT again, or still...but…

Looking at Yahoo’s coverage of this WMD matter - One article linked from Investor’s Business Daily - and put in their “Financial News” section....Interesting way to “bury” a story which is positively leaning towards the administration.

However, I also saw stories about the ex-cia official who came out and said the administration “cherry-picked” their information in the lead-up to the war.  An old-rehashed story to be sure....
But this story was listed 3 separate times “To Tell The Truth”, in the business section - “White House Misused Iraq Intelligence: ex-official”, in the politics section - and “Ex-CIA official says Bush ‘Cherry-Picked’Iraq Intelligence”, in the World section.

Contrast that with this story - placed in the Business section - only one story - and given the headline “Gunsmoke on ABC”.

Who’s going to look at that headline and know that this is an article about the truth of the WMD matter?  Anyone looking at that would think ABC is bringing back the old Western TV Show.

No - there’s no left-bias in the media....Good Lord.

Who’s going to look at that headline and know that this is an article about the truth of the WMD matter?  Anyone looking at that would think ABC is bringing back the old Western TV Show.

You’re so right! This story has been utterly and comprehensively buried, and that’s an absolute disgrace. You can tell how few people have even managed to find this story - have a look at the ‘recommended’ rating at the bottom. Only 6 people have rated this story, compare this to the current headline story on Yahoo, about the Phillipines mudslide, that has 292 ratings.
I had a look at the discussion section, and there was now one post, from a Bush supporter, saying pretty much what we’ve just said - that it’s a disgrace that this story has been buried and that the liberals had been proved wrong. I posted a reply agreeing with him and asking any liberals out there if they’d care to start apologising.
Can I make a request to my fellow Moorewatchers, please? How about a few more of you post on that Yahoo discussion thread trying to goad a response from any liberals who might be passing? It’d be fun to see how long it is before any of them dare to admit they might have been wrong…

Moore is up to his lying again.  If you go to his site, he acts as if Chaney was drunk when he when quail hunting.  If you then read the link that it directs you to, it states that Chaney had one beer hours before the hunt.

This is a link i think is worth checking out, its the Intelligence Summit where you can download the Powerpoint presentation of Translated tapes of Saddam talking about weapons.  I havent had time to read the entire thing bc its about 160 slides, but check it out http://www.intelligencesummit.org/

Just a point I thought I would put in since it is pretty much on topic… (the topic being a google search)

Try typing in the word loser into a google search.  Very interesting little return you will get.  It shocked me the first time it came up.  The first two sites are (1) the official site of the President G.W. Bush and (2) www.michaelmoore.com

That is quite an intresting return for typing in “loser”

CORRECTION...CORRECTION...CORRECTION

Sorry the word of choice for the above post is “failure” not loser.  I know that makes a load of difference.

Or maybe with enough money you can get any website to come up first… whatever.

When I started the thread about this in the forums, the good Dr from France quickly dismissed it because the weapons inspectors were much more tough after that date. I am sure Saddam had a big change of heart and decided to tell the truth from then on.
You can only fool the U.N. once of course. My eyes just rolled out of my head and under the desk after typing that.

BTW, the search thing was pretty damn funny. I wonder if Moore ever comes here?

Let me explain why you are getting the google result with Moore on it, and the Bush failure thing etc.

It is called a google bomb. One of the ways google organises it’s search results and decides which one is the number one result for a given term etc. is through link text.

Example, when you create a html text link (the text you click on on a web page which takes you to another web location) you have to specify what text you want to display for people to click on. So it might look like this:
Moore lies
The above text would create a link to this website, with the text “Moore Lies”

But once google had indexed the web page the above link apears on, it makes the connection between the term “moore lies” and this site. So in future if somebody types “moore lies” into google, google knows that www.moorewatch.com is a site that somebody else believes is relevent to that term.

Its a bit confusing, but at the end of the day it means that if you get enough people to put a link on their websites (blogs and forums count too) with the specific text then it will move up the google rankings and eventually be the number one ranked page for that specific term, even if they owners of the website itself don’t like it.

So, this is why when you type ‘miserable failure’ into google and hit the I feel lucky button it comes up with the page from whitehouse.gov
A similer thing is happening with people linking ‘fat bastard’ to Moore’s site. The picture thing is as a result of that.

One of the best google bombs is:
‘french military victories’
Type it into google, hit I feel lucky and see what you get.

in the past ‘fuckwit’ used to get you the web page of John Prescott, the UK politicion and ‘weapons of mass destruction’ used to get you a fake ‘page not found’ thing making a joke at the lack of WMD’s found in Iraq.

It isn’t to do with how much you pay to get this links high in google. You can’t buy your way to the top of googles results (at least not with google, you can hire somebody to optimize your page for search engines) it is to do with a million other factors including this google bomb thing.
Hope that helps some people.

ahem, I’ve just noticed that in the above post I typed an example of a link, but of course when I submit it actually created the link. What I meant to type in the above post where the “moore lies” link apears is this

<A HREF=www.moorewatch.com>Moore Lies</A>

Which is what a link looks like except there would also be quotation marks around the moorewatch address (I took them out so it would show up in this post)

I knew that.(Although I didn’t know exactly how it was done, thanks Tripper) It is still funny though. I laughed at the other ones too

Tripper, thank you.  That was very helpful.  I actually had one of my students bring the “failure” thing up to me after watching Bowling for Columbine in class.  I couldn’t decide which was funnier, that G.W. was first or that Moore wasn’t.  I mean I thought he could at least be the first at something.

haha!!! That’s funny. Hey, did you know that if you type in miserable failure into google search the search comes up with George Bush’s biography? I think that’s funny too. And get this...if you type in miserable failure into google image search it comes up with ...you guessed it: George Bush. Heehee...pardon me while I roll on the floor laughing.

It’s Cheney. Not Chaney.

The reason why

Of course Jimmy Carter and Michael Moore are results 2 and 3 on that too.

Wonder if the guy Cheney shot in the face has health insurance.
By the way, is anyone else concerned with the fact that the VP was able to just turn the cops away when they wanted to get some statements about the shooting?  Since when do Americans get to tell cops, go away and come back tomorrow?  I have to try and remember that if I ever get pulled over with few too many drinks in me.

Engine, I’m a little confused why would you want to remember that if you had a “few too many drinks” in you?  Could it be that you assumed that Cheney was drunk?  Where did you get this information?

Oh and what does that have to do with the topic?

What the hell is Engine rambling on about.  MAybe he’s had a few too many drinks. (The cheney thing has nothing to do with this topic..)

What the hell is Engine rambling on about.

Perhaps DrEngine should exercise his constitutional right and just remain silent as anything he says here can be used against him in a court of public opinion.

Leemj: We are glad you are so very happy.

DrEngine: I believe precedent was established by Ted Kennedy, the big difference being Cheney got medical attention for his victim immediately. Are you sure you are firing on all cylinders? :)

By the way thanks for the ‘french military victories’ I showed that to some french defending freinds of mine and it’s driving them crazy.  Seriously I hate France

Does anyone know what happened to Mikey after his stay at that fat farm in Florida this last year?

Yes, he bought the farm.

Then he ate it, with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

I can’t believe no one’s quoted this yet…

“Get in mah belleh!” XD

why don’t you focus your energies on tracking all the horse shit that Bush and his cronies are feeding the American public? At least M. Moore never diverted any troops so they could be blown to bits in Iraq while allowing Bin Laden to walk away. Bush has broken the law by many accounts regarding his illegally authorized wire tapping. What laws has M. Moore broken? It’s completely beyond comprehension why someone would dedicate their energies to debunking a documentary filmmaker who is critical of this Administration, which the Administration is clearly the most secretive and corrupt in the history of the United States.

>>I went to Google Image Search and typed in “fat bastard”.  In addition to pictures of Fat Bastard there were numerous pictures of Michael Moore

har har..type in “asshole” and you get plenty of pictures of Bush.

HoustonTex: Thanks for your input but this site is called Moorewatch. Bushwatch is right next door. Not to be confused with a porn site. As you are from Texas, I am sure you know your horse shit, but that is a divisive word for the verbage issuing from our presidents mouth.
You would (if you care) get more respect here if you refrain from such ignorant diatribe, and stated your position less aggrssively. Thank you and have a nice day.

HoustonTex: The google bombs were already explained here. This doens’t mean that Bush is an asshole albeit funny. It just means some asshole with a keyboard and too much spare time to research is screwing up search results. While we cannot prove Michael Moore is a bastard, he is most definately fat.

>ignorant diatribe !?

Your response proves my point: it looks like your last three remaining brain cells have finally broke off diplomatic relations.

why don’t you focus your energies on tracking all the horse shit that Bush and his cronies are feeding the American public?

Hey guys, remember when every single post to the site got one of these comments from a Mooreon? Now all the new little idiots think they’ve whipped it up in an original little brainstorm. Sad.

I bet he’s jerking off to “how good he got us”

I brought up Cheney because of the health insurance thread, and it did get off topic.  Oh well, somebody create a goddamn REAL story, so that bluesambas and iggy21 can feel comfortable with me talking about it.  And to answer your question bluesambas, no I can’t assume he was drunk, and none of us will ever know if he was drunk because he was allowed to just tell the cops to go away and come again some other day.  That was essentially my point.  But because I didn’t follow the rules (and we all know you Repubs love to follow rules) you decided to focus on the fact that my comment was off topic.
And Rapid R: Ted Kennedy probably DID set precedent, but that’s still not a good thing.  I make no apologies for Kennedy; the guy’s a total scumbag.  But don’t excuse Cheney’s dodge because Kennedy did it.  Isn’t it the right-wing idol Bill O’Reilly who says: you don’t excuse bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior?

or you could try firing up those 2 synapses that still work in your brain and go to the forums and try to find a thread there with the relevant topic, or make your own.  I swear there should be an internet proficiency test before people are allowed to go online.

And to answer your question bluesambas, no I can’t assume he was drunk, and none of us will ever know if he was drunk because he was allowed to just tell the cops to go away and come again some other day. That was essentially my point.

Lie.  Sad, pathetic, a smear attempt and a lie.  In other words, typical liberal garbage.

why don’t you focus your energies on tracking all the horse shit that Bush and his cronies are feeding the American public?

Who you talking to, fuckwit? If you’re looking to slam us for being kool aid drinking Republicans, you better think again.  Lee spends most of his time at his blog slapping the piss out of Bush’s inadequacies.  I spend quite a bit of time at my blog doing the same.  Shit, I joined the RINOs...which stands for Republicans/Independents Not Overdosed (on the Party Kool-Aid).  So hows about you start suckin’ my dick with this bullshit line of reasoning?

why don’t you focus your energies on tracking all the horse shit that Bush and his cronies are feeding the American public?

OK… and what particular horseshit is that?
No, I mean seriously. Without throwing out drool-mouthed innuendo and rabin partisan hate-speech, can you actually name a single thing that has been proven to be a lie?
Before you even start blathering again, let me remind you that tapes of Saddam from as recent as 2003 were recently discovered on which he openly discusses his ownership of WMD. So you folks got completely owned on that one, as far as I’m concerned.

Bush has broken the law by many accounts regarding his illegally authorized wire tapping.

Yeah!  ...except, NO.
Again, someone needs a serious lesson in current affairs, here.
1> Nobody who is blubbering about this knows the actual extent of the wire tapping. (No, nobody. Not you, not Ted Kennedy, nobody.) We certainly do not know if any “innocent” American citizens were ever tapped.
The only people who do know are the President, the NSA, and the Intelligence commission (who are bi-partisan, and resoundingly behind the president on the issue. Doesn’t it make you wonder why they would be, if they know the whole story? No? Well, that figures.)

2> As much as twits like Kennedy and Pelosi cry about it, they can’t seem to make a coherent argument that congress did not give the Prez the authority to do so back in 2001.  If there were such an argument that held any water, don’t you think we’d have heard it by now?

3> We’re talking about Al-quaeda members, here, Tex… not the little old lady that lives on the corner of Maple street. This is wire tapping of foreign terrorists, via their contacts here in the U.S.  Can you look me in the eye and say that you seriously have a problem with the government tapping the phones of people planning terrorist attacks here in the U.S.? That you seriously want to defend these people? I dare you to say that out loud. I double dog dare you!

4> They work. Period. According to the NSA, FBI and HSA, the wire taps we’re discussing have already been responsible for foiling several plots by Al-Queda here in the U.S.

Ok.. now your mission is to try to say something based in more than just hate and mindless regurgitation.

the Administration is clearly the most secretive and corrupt in the history of the United States.

Mission failed.

Tell me, what facts or evidence do you have to back up this claim? “clearly the most...blah blah"… clearly?
Clearly, they are the most effective administration in reshaping the world map for a more secure and prosperous future for everyone. Clearly.
Clearly the most corrupt administration in this nation’s history has been the Clinton administration, selling state secrets for campaign donations, rigging elections, possibly murdering whistleblowers, embezzling funds, illegally funneling funds through religious institutions, back-door dealing with forces unfriendly to this nation, and lastly, being the catalyst for the events of 9/11.
Clearly the most corrupt in United States History. Quite possibly the most corrupt national leadership in human history.

So, what have we learned?

Well, most importantly, Tex, that before you open your pie-hople, you should probably have a fact or two to back yourself up. Echoing liberal hate-speech is effective for nothing more than identifying yourself as a mindless lemming.
I’m not saying that Bush is without any failings by any measure.
All I’m saying is, if you want to be seen as something more than a yammering fool, then bring a respectable argument to the table. So far, you’ve failed to do so, and the results are clear; you are taken as seriously as all the other trolls who came before you. (which is about as seriously Justin Timberlake strapping on boxing gloves and calling out Mike Tyson.)

Ah, forgot to add, in addition to the Saddam tapes discussion his WMD and their planned use against the U.S. leading up to the invasion of Iraq in 2003, former the Iraqi general who provided these tapes to U.S. intelligence also alleged that, in June 2002 Saddam transported weapons of mass destruction out of Iraq and into Syria aboard several refitted commercial jets, under the pretense of conducting a humanitarian mission for flood victims.

Yes… June 2002.

So there were WMD, whether you, Kennedy, Pelosi, Clinton, Carter, Moore or any other moonbats like it… OR NOT.

... but Bush lied

(i know that joke is getting old, but it still gets the point across)

JimK, is it a lie that Cheney was protected from the cops on that ranch?  You call it a pathetic lie, but how do you know?  Is there a source that indicates no such exchange happened?  If there’s evidence that the cops weren’t turned away, I’ll gladly recant my statement; I have no problems admitting that I was wrong.

If Saddam had WMD wouldn’t he have used them on US forces when they invaded?  I never understood that.
My stand has always been that there’s a distinction between having WMD and being an “imminent threat.” MAYBE Saddam had WMD (though it appears that he didn’t) but if he did, was he an “imminent threat?” Lots of countries have WMD. France has WMD, but they’re not on the Axis of Evil list.  Probably because they’re not an imminent threat.  Neither was Iraq.