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Sunday, October 19, 2008

Hawaii Bye Bye

Posted by Lee on 10/19/08 at 11:53 AM

It’s hard times for the kiddies in Hawaii.

Hawaii is dropping the only state universal child health care program in the country just seven months after it launched.

Gov. Linda Lingle’s administration cited budget shortfalls and other available health care options for eliminating funding for the program. A state official said families were dropping private coverage so their children would be eligible for the subsidized plan.

“People who were already able to afford health care began to stop paying for it so they could get it for free,” said Dr. Kenny Fink, the administrator for Med-QUEST at the Department of Human Services. “I don’t believe that was the intent of the program.”

What?  How can this be?  You mean that when the government provides something for free it provides an incentive for people to take advantage of the system?  My God, who could have ever dreamed of such a thing!

State health officials argued that most of the children enrolled in the universal child care program previously had private health insurance, indicating that it was helping those who didn’t need it.

This is why universal health insurance is such a bad idea.  It encourages people to do things that they normally wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) do.

Update Here’s a quote, generally attributed to Alexander Fraser Tytler which so perfectly predicts and illustrates this dynamic.

“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”

The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

• From bondage to spiritual faith;
• From spiritual faith to great courage;
• From courage to liberty;
• From liberty to abundance;
• From abundance to complacency;
• From complacency to apathy;
• From apathy to dependence;
• From dependence back into bondage.

This is why I’m a Libertarian, and why the less government we have in our lives the better.  Nobody will listen, though.  They’ll keep on looking at the ample teat of government as a place to suckle for free, always expecting other people to pay for things they should be doing themselves.  When you remove the incentive for responsible behavior you end up with citizens behaving irresponsibly.

Which, I’m sure, would NEVER happen in Michael Moore’s fantasy healthcare utopia, would it?


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Thursday, September 20, 2007

Doctors Behind Bars

Posted by Lee on 09/20/07 at 02:07 AM

There’s one place in America where people are given 100% medical care provided by the state.  Every single medical need they have is provided, free of charge.  So I think it’s reasonable that we look at this system to provide some insight into what government-run healthcare in America would look like.  What is this system I refer to?  Why, the prison system, of course

Now, before we begin, let us not forget that this is a point Moore has made himself a number of times.  He made a huge deal after the capture of Saddam that the dictator was getting the type of free medical exam that American citizens couldn’t get, and in Sicko he took 9/11 victims to Gitmo to try to get the same level of care that the terror suspects held there were receiving.  So before you Mooreons attack me for an unfair comparison, remember that your lord and savior has been making this point for years.

As many as one in six deaths of California prison inmates last year might have been preventable, according to a study of medical care in 32 state lockups that will be used to help rebuild the troubled system.

One inmate, who reported extreme chest pains in the middle of the night, died of a heart ailment after waiting eight hours to see a doctor.

Another who complained for days of severe abdominal pain died of acute pancreatitis after medical staff did not believe his pleas were credible.

A third died after a two-year delay in diagnosis of his testicular cancer.

And an asthma patient died after failing to receive steroid medication for two days following transfer from a county jail.

The report, released Wednesday by the court-appointed receiver in charge of healthcare for the state’s 173,000 prisoners, revealed a broad pattern of delays in diagnosis, poor inmate access to doctors and tests, botched handling of medical records, and failure of medical staff to recognize and treat dangerous conditions.

Officials said some lapses led to disciplinary actions against doctors and nurses.

There were 426 deaths in 2006, including 43 suicides, and the study examined 381 of them.

Eighteen deaths were found to be preventable, meaning better medical management or a better system of care would have prevented deaths. An additional 48 were found to be “possibly preventable,” meaning better medical management of a system of care might have prevented death.

Of the deaths considered preventable, six were from asthma, which receiver Robert Sillen said he intended to make a priority for reforms.

“The leading cause of [preventable] death being asthma is unconscionable, and it is evidence of systemic problems and problems with individual clinical judgments,” Sillen said in an interview. “Adults in 21st century California should not have asthma as a primary cause of death.”

Now, be honest.  This could very easily be a report about the Canadian or British healthcare systems.  You could swap “NHS” for “prison” and end up with damn near a verbatim report.  If your goal is to provide 100% coverage to everyone then socialized medicine is for you.  If your goal is to provide the best quality coverage to the maximum number of people, we can all see just how wonderful the government is at providing 100% healthcare.

The Russian author Fyodor Dostoevsky is alleged to have said, “The way society treats its prisoners characterizes the level of its civilization.” I will leave it to the reader to determine to what degree proponents of 100% government-run healthcare are interested in a just and fair civilization.

Update by Lee: From a commenter at my main blog.


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Friday, July 27, 2007

Two great articles fisking Sicko

Posted by DonnaK on 07/27/07 at 04:36 PM

I’ve just come across two quite thorough articles that take on Michael Moore’s claims about the superior health care received in foreign countries.


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Friday, July 13, 2007

Sweden: The ABBA of Healthcare

Posted by Lee on 07/13/07 at 04:39 PM

We’re heard a lot about the UK and France.  What about Sweden?

In my home of Sweden, for instance, patients in need of heart surgery often wait as long as 25 weeks, and the average wait for hip replacement is more than a year. Some patients have even been sent to veterinarians for treatment, and many Swedes now go to neighboring countries for dental care, despite having paid taxes for “free” dental coverage.

This shouldn’t be a surprise. Only with an infinite supply of health care funding can government dole out an infinite supply of health care services, so waiting lists are a natural consequence of state-sponsored coverage.

And what about the rest of Europe?


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Friday, June 29, 2007

Now This Is Compassion

Posted by Lee on 06/29/07 at 01:36 PM

And this is what Michael Moore wants for America.

No thank you, Mikey.  Oh, for what it’s worth, on Wednesday I went to the doctor, and he told me he wanted me to have an MRI of my head.  I have to get prior approval from my insurance company, which usually takes a day.  I didn’t hear from the doctor yesterday so I called this morning.  Apparently there’s been some kind of a clerical error, because the department at the insurance company couldn’t find my record.  So the delay in this case is a common paperwork error.  I would imagine that I will be approved for the MRI today, and should have it sometime early next week.

The poor bastard in the film is in Canada.  Guess how long he had to wait?

Update: As it turned out I didn’t need a precertification from my insurance company at all.  They said, “No, you’re all set. Just call the MRI place and make an appointment.” Right now it’s 4:30pm on Friday.  My MRI is at 8:30am on Monday.

I feel so bad.  I’d much rather live in a compassionate society like Canada, where I have to wait six months to get my MRI, than here in the eeeeeevil kapitalist USA, where I can get damn near same-day treatment.


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Thursday, June 28, 2007

RomneyCare in the Hot Seat

Posted by Lee on 06/28/07 at 12:54 PM

The Cato Institute has released a paper on Massachusetts’ public/private universal health coverage system.  Here’s the summary.

In spring 2006, Massachusetts enacted legislation to ensure universal health insurance coverage to all residents. The legislation was a hybrid of ideas from across the political spectrum, promoted by a moderately conservative Republican governor with national political aspirations, and passed by a liberal Democratic state House and Senate. Groups from across the political spectrum supported the plan, from the Heritage Foundation on the right to Families USA on the left, although the plan had detractors from across the political spectrum as well.

This study briefly describes the basic structure of the Massachusetts plan and identifies the good, the bad, and the ugly. Although the legislation, as Stuart Altman put it, “is not a typical Massachusetts–Taxachusetts, oh–just–crazy–liberal plan,” there is enough “bad” and “ugly” in the mix to raise serious concerns, particularly when the desire to overregulate the health insurance market appears to be hard–wired into Massachusetts policymakers’ DNA.

If we want to make health insurance more affordable and avoid the “bad” and the “ugly” of the Massachusetts plan, Congress — or, barring that, individual states — should consider a “regulatory federalism” approach. Under such an approach, insurers and insurance purchasers would be required to subject themselves to the laws and regulations of a single state but allowed to select the state. As with corporate charters, this system would allow employers and insurers to select the regulatory regime that most efficiently and cost–effectively matches the needs of their risk pools. The ability of purchasers and insurers to exit from the state’s regulatory oversight (taking their premium taxes with them) would temper opportunistic behavior by legislators and regulators, including the temptation to impose inefficient mandates and otherwise overregulate.

A little light reading for ya.  Enjoy.


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Wednesday, June 27, 2007

Cleaning out my folder

Posted by JimK on 06/27/07 at 05:09 PM

I have all these links that I keep meaning to post...so to get them out, I’m just going to throw them all in one post...after the jump.


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Club Sandwich

Posted by Lee on 06/27/07 at 02:20 PM

Note:  This is my opinion only.  I believe Jim and Donna and the other participants here will be in general agreement with this, but until they officially sign on let’s keep this as being solely the opinion of Lee.

The always-brilliant Cato Institute have come up with an idea.  Since many people on the right are warming to the idea that some form of suckle-at-nanny’s-ample-teat statism is necessary to provide healthcare to Americans, they’ve come up with a novel counterweight:  The Anti-Universal Coverage Club.  Here are the rules.

1. Health policy should focus on making health care of ever-increasing quality available to an ever-increasing number of people.

2. To achieve “universal coverage” would require either having the government provide health insurance to everyone or forcing everyone to buy it. Government provision is undesirable, because government does a poor job of improving quality or efficiency.  Forcing people to get insurance would lead to a worse health-care system for everyone, because it would necessitate so much more government intervention.

3. In a free country, people should have the right to refuse health insurance.

4. If governments must subsidize those who cannot afford medical care, they should be free to experiment with different types of subsidies (cash, vouchers, insurance, public clinics & hospitals, uncompensated care payments, etc.) and tax exemptions, rather than be forced by a policy of “universal coverage” to subsidize people via “insurance.”

This is where I am coming from.  Moore has done this country a service by pointing out the glaring flaws in our system.  The question now becomes, do we use ingenuity and intelligence to come up with a novel solution?  Or do we merely sign up to become nothing more than the latest country to buy into the great socialist lie?

Update from JimK


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Saturday, June 23, 2007

Ways to improve the health care system…

Posted by JimK on 06/23/07 at 04:24 PM

...without going single-payer.

I have two ideas that were floated to me via email, upon which I have expanded.  Both people asked that I not publicize their address or names, and they were extremely polite about it, so in deference to them...just the ideas.  After the jump, the two plans.


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