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Wednesday, July 18, 2007

Pravda is Truth

Posted by MikeS on 07/18/07 at 02:14 PM

So do you do after CNN hands your sizable ass to you? Declare Victory!

CNN Throws in Towel, Admits to Two Errors, and States That All ‘Sicko’ Facts Are True to Their Source (or something like that)… Moore Realizes All This is Huge Distraction and Then Spends More Precious Time Thanking Paris Hilton for Seeing ‘Sicko’… Meanwhile, More than 300 Americans Die Because They Had No Health Insurance During the 8-Day Gupta-Moore War…

Notice the second error they “admit” on Keckley, he quotes a single sentence and not their paragraph-long deconstruction of his BS.

CNN did apologize for these two factual errors, but no apology seems to be coming for the rest of their errors.

Sorry, Mike, it’s you that’s in error on mixing data from various sources to make the US look as bad as possible. But, when Pravda is Truth, I guess CNN did make an error because they disagree with “truth” as you have defined it—facts that serve your point of view.


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Tuesday, July 17, 2007

Cuba, Castro, and the not-so-secret history of Reinaldo Arenas, Part 2

Posted by DonnaK on 07/17/07 at 08:39 PM

PLEASE NOTE: This article is part one in a four part series about Cuba and the Cuban writer Reinaldo Arenas. You can find part one of this series here, part three here and part four here. The entire series is collected in one post here. Unless otherwise noted, all quotes contained within this series are taken from Reinaldo Arenas’ autobiography “Before Night Falls” translated by Dolores M. Koch.

“It all comes back to his memory now. Unable to stop himself, he sighs and weeps.” - Song of Roland”

I’d like you to take a journey with me. Let me take you back in time and lead you through the life of the heroic writer Reinaldo Arenas. It is a difficult trip filled with great pain and sadness, but I will promise you two things on the outset. First, you will learn much about both Reinaldo’s life and the tyrannical dictatorship of Fidel Castro. But secondly, and perhaps more importantly, you will learn beyond the shadow of a doubt why Michael Moore was so very, very wrong to portray both Castro and Cuba in the rosy light he did in Sicko.

Let us begin….


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Sunday, July 15, 2007

CNN’s response to Michael Moore, plus Manufacturing Dissent

Posted by JimK on 07/15/07 at 09:28 PM

CNN has responded to Moore’s response and it’s a doozy.  Way too much data to excerpt anything.  Just read the whole thing.  It’s a hell of a fisking.

While we’re here, check out this article about Manufacturing Dissent.  It’s interesting to note that the centerpiece of the film is a barrel full of evidence that Moore talked to Roger Smith (and not just that couple of minutes at a tax abatement meeting), which is of course something Moorewatchers have known for awhile based off my old appearance on The Larry Elder Show.


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Cuba, Castro, and the not-so-secret history of Reinaldo Arenas - COMPLETE

Posted by DonnaK on 07/15/07 at 01:39 PM

IMPORTANT - PLEASE NOTE

This is a compilation of a series of four articles about Cuba and the Cuban writer Reinaldo Arenas. If you would like to read the articles as they were originally published, complete with comments, in their individual entries you can find part one of this series here, part two here, part three here and part four here.

Unless otherwise noted, all quotes contained within this series are taken from Reinaldo Arenas’ autobiography “Before Night Falls” translated by Dolores M. Koch.

His name is Reinaldo Arenas.


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Saturday, July 14, 2007

Moore on Opie & Anthony

Posted by JimK on 07/14/07 at 05:00 PM

Much thanks to reader Mike, who not only grabbed the audio but gave us an outline which you will find after the jump.

Audio file is a 12.5MB MP3.Get it here.

My personal highlights are Moore talking about the “me” versus “we” society and right/left coming together.  We know he’s not telling the truth about both of those concepts; we have it from his own lips.  Of course credit where it is due, it’s nice that he re-stated that I did thank him.  It helps tone down the crazy emails, and I’m grateful for that.


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Fisking Moore’s Fisk, Part Duh

Posted by MikeS on 07/14/07 at 02:30 PM

Michael Moore’s “truth squad” is at it again.  Actually, I’m going to call them the Pravda Squad, since they remind me a lot of the old Soviet Communist Party newspaper “Pravda.” The russian word pravda literally means “truth” but the Soviet newspaper Pravda practically translated into “truth as defined by the Communist Party”.  Michael’s Pravda Squad defines “truth” as “whatever supports Moore’s positions”.

It’s not worth the detailed deconstruction I did last time.  Basically, they defend the indefensible mixing of sources to make the US look bad; they bring up Iraq again; they tacitly buy into the ridiculous notion that Medicare is more efficient than private insurance.  But I want to focus on two real stupidities:


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Irony, they name is Moore

Posted by JimK on 07/14/07 at 02:14 PM

This is precious.  It’s Moore’s latest screed sent to his mailing list and posted to his site. It’s about the verbal beatings Dr. Sanjay Gupta gave him on CNN and Larry King, and of course Mike’s apoplectic blowup with Wolf Blitzer.  I’d like you to note the following while you read:

1. Note that Moore openly admits that anyone who gives him money would get favorable treatment.  Now that’s funny right there.  It makes me think he really was trying to buy me off.  If money buys his silence and loyalty, he assumes it buys everyone else?
2. Note that he refuses to acknowledge Gupta’s knockout punch: that Moore cherry-picked numbers from two different locations, one completely unverified, and compared them in the film.  It’s just one of many perfectly valid criticisms levied by Dr. Gupta that Moore simply refuses to discuss.
3. Note his discussion of truth at the end.  Ultimate irony or just a sociopath who believes his own BS?
4. Note the use, again, of the world journalism, as if this guy has the first clue what journalism is.
5. Note the use of the old MMFlint@aol email address.  A) Not from Flint (he’s from Davison), and B) what happened to using his domain name?  Is he trying to reconnect with that “man of the people” thing after so many years of being Super Rich NYC Park Avenue Man?

Mike’s nonsense rant at CNN after the jump…


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Friday, July 13, 2007

BBC tried to pull a Moore

Posted by JimK on 07/13/07 at 01:27 PM

The Beeb screwed up

A trailer gave the impression that the monarch had abruptly halted the photo-shoot after Leibovitz’s request.

Scenes of the pair clashing were followed by images of the Queen walking down a corridor and telling her lady-in-waiting: “I’m not changing anything. I’ve had enough dressing like this, thank you very much.”

But the footage of her “storming out” was actually of her walking IN to the shoot at Buckingham Palace.

Hey that technique sounds familiar.  Where have we heard of someone who edits two events together to make a whole new third event?

So why am I posting this at Moorewatch?  Look at the outrage over something so silly and so trivial...but it calls the very integrity of the BBC into question, as it should.  And yet, as we can see from the Moore-ons who flock to this site, his fanbase cares not at all when Moore does this exact same thing in regards to issues that are decidedly not trivial.  They defend it.  Now he calls himself a journalist to avoid prosecution for breaking the laws regarding travel to Cuba.  Journalists don’t do this kind of thing without recrimination.

Or at least they aren’t supposed to.

Mr. Moore, if you’re a journalist, start acting like one.


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Thursday, July 12, 2007

Trouble in Paradise

Posted by Lee on 07/12/07 at 10:16 PM

Could it be that Cuba is not the egalitarian utopia that Michael Moore portrays?  Perhaps we should ask El Presidente himself.


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Wednesday, July 11, 2007

The horror of Cuban hospitals

Posted by DonnaK on 07/11/07 at 07:35 PM

Several of the authors and commenters on this site have discussed the true, current, and horrific state of Cuban hospitals. We have shown many pictures of what the average Cuban hopsital looks like and the type of care the average Cuban citizen receives. To look on such horrors and not to want to weep for these poor people is almost unthinkable. To realize that Michael Moore has covered up the real state of Cuban healthcare is almost unforgivable.

A new set of pictures of a real, everyday Cuban hospital has emerged. The pictures are credited to Dr. Darsi Ferrer and are showing up on several sites, including this townhall.com site. The site’s owner prefaces the pictures with this paragraph:

Michael Moore would like you to believe that our healthcare is criminally terrible. He would like to make you believe that Cuba’s healthcare is great. He even made a movie about it. Here are the real pictures from Cuba, showing Cuba’s real sicko healthcare. You tell me—where would you rather be next time you need some hospital services?

Cuban Hospital

Indeed.

Look at these pictures and tell me… was Michael Moore telling the truth about the Cuban healthcare system?


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Michael Moore: 9/11 Truther, Democrat cheerleader

Posted by JimK on 07/11/07 at 04:24 PM

This video is not remarkable for the confirmation that Moore is, at least in part, a 9/11 Truther.  The important part is at the end.  After the jump, take a gander at some crazy meeting some more crazy.


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Fisking Moore’s Fisk

Posted by MikeS on 07/11/07 at 02:33 PM

Michael Moore has responded to CNN. I hate to put in two long posts in one day, but it’s a perfect example of his methods.  He doesn’t lie, per se.  But he deceives and obfuscates with the skill of trained propagandist.

Here’s a fisking.  I’ve stripped out his reference and websites to save some space.  You can go to the link above if you want to see where he’s getting his facts from.  And you should.  Because where he’s getting his facts from is half the problem.


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WHO=BS; 15=37; Black=White; See You at the Next Zebra Crossing

Posted by MikeS on 07/11/07 at 07:16 AM

Why Our “37th-ranked” Healthcare Sytem Ain’t So Bad

If you’ve heard it once, you’ve heard it a thousand times, mostly spewed by Michael Moore when he’s not insulting courageous neurologists.

“We have the 37th ranked healthcare system in the world!  And we pay the most money for it!”

This statement appears to be at the heart of SiCKO!, has been repeated endlessly by Moore and his supporters and is only vaguely questioned even by Dr. Gupta.  But what does this Number in the Dark actually mean? Do we really have the 37th best healthcare system in the world?

This website has been inspired by movies.  We have all seen the commercials for movies that scream “Four Stars!” in bold letters and leave to the fine print that this rating came from the East Bumble Press.

So what’s the fine print on the healthcare system rankings?

They come from the WHO’s 2000 report and they are based on ranking the systems in three categories:


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Deconstructing Obfuscation

Posted by Lee on 07/11/07 at 02:41 AM

This one is specifically directed at you Michael Moore fans.  I’m going to specifically show you how Moore lies, obfuscates, distorts, and dodges his way out of answering direct questions using tonight’s Larry King transcript as an example. 


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Tuesday, July 10, 2007

The Gupta Chronicles

Posted by Lee on 07/10/07 at 11:31 PM

If you’re not familiar with the Dr. Gupta/Moore issue, first read this post.  Moore clearly shows himself to be the self-righteous narcissistic sociopath that we have known him to be for quite some time.  Basically Sanjay Gupta, a Harvard-trained neurosurgeon and CNN’s senior medical correspondent, offered a “reality check” on Moore’s claims.  Rather than being a hit piece on Moore, Gupta simply offers a general refutation of the main themes of Moore’s film.  Here’s the video, see for yourself.

In return, Moore (sociopathic narcissist) goes off on a ruddy-faced spittle-flying tirade.  He can dish it out, but the fat fuck sure can’t take it, can he?  I wonder, if Michael Moore was to get so angry that be burst a blood vessel in his head, would he go to the local hospital for treatment, or would be go to the medical paradise of Canada?

There’s the video for yourself.  Listen to what Gupta says, then watch Moore go apoplectic.  Gupta is a neurosurgeon, Moore is a professional multimillionaire socialist Castro worshipper.  Which of these two men is in a better position to state the truth about American healthcare?


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Monday, July 09, 2007

Cuba, Castro, and the not-so-secret history of Reinaldo Arenas, Part 1

Posted by DonnaK on 07/09/07 at 11:19 PM

PLEASE NOTE: This article is part one in a four part series about Cuba and the Cuban writer Reinaldo Arenas. You can find part two here, part three here and part four here. The entire series is collected in one post here. Unless otherwise noted, all quotes contained within this series are taken from Reinaldo Arenas’ autobiography “Before Night Falls” translated by Dolores M. Koch.

His name is Reinaldo Arenas.


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Perrignoramus

Posted by Lee on 07/09/07 at 01:54 PM

The hate mail Jim and I have been receiving lately has just been legendary.  We’ve always received death threats ever since we started the site, so that’s old hat really, but we’ve now evolved (devolved?) to the point where Moore’s fans are literally wishing for Jim’s wife to die.  I’m not going to dignify these emails by posting them, but something just came through my inbox that was just too monumentally stupid to go without comment.  It’s from some guy called Steven Perrigo.

Why do you deem it necessary to bash Moore when all he is trying to do is help and he has no political agenda?

That’s right, folks. Michael Moore has no political agenda, and just wants to help people.

You’ll have to excuse me while I go shit myself laughing.


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Friday, July 06, 2007

I Need a Shower

Posted by MikeS on 07/06/07 at 10:55 PM

Those of you who have been to my blog (cue crickets chirping) or seen my comments at RTLC know that I’ve been fairly harsh with the Bush Administration and the GOP. So much so that as a small-government, free-market, free-trade federalist, I’m no longer considered “conservative” in some circles.

But one of the things I’m doing, now that I’m a contributor at Moorewatch, is becoming more familiar with his views, his work and his website - and the Leftists contained therein.  And while reading his website makes me feel like I need a shower for my brain, it is a wonderful reminder of why I will never ever be a radical leftist.  Over there it’s all “impeach Bush, destroy the corporations, let’s have a march”. All linked to approvingly by Moore. And I thought I’d have to go back to college to see such ignorance again.

Today, Mikey links approvingly to a Creative Loafing review of his movie.  I have to believe this is for entertainment purposes only. I grew up in Atlanta laughing at this “alternative” rag.  Certainly, Moore has to be giggling in his sleep knowing that he posted this on his website.

Anyway, a light fisking is in order, since the article represents everything that drives me berzerk about the healthcare debate. And presumably, one or two people are having their opinions formed by this tripe.

Besides, it’s been a long week and I feel the need to go Cheney on someone.


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Thursday, July 05, 2007

Stossel On Moore

Posted by MikeS on 07/05/07 at 09:42 AM

A nice little article by John Stossel over Real Clear Politics.  I’d recommend the entire thing, but check this out:

“But government is force,” I said to him. He was incredulous.

Michael Moore: Why do you see it as force?

Me: Because government takes money with force from people and gives it to others.

Moore: No, it doesn’t, actually. The government is of, by, and for the people. The people elect the government, and the people determine whether or not they’ll allow the government to collect taxes from them.

Stossel goes on to explain the difference between how liberals and conservatives see government.  I’m not so sure that conservatives understand how forceful government is these days, but the point is well taken.  There is a danger in getting focused too much on the stated goals of government and not focusing enough on the dangerous means.

Government “of by and for the people” isn’t supposed to be able to do whatever it wants to the people.  That’s why we have this pesky little thing called the Constitution which, among other things, means the people can’t, for example, decide to take Moore’s right of free speech away.

Update by JimK - Just wanted to give a shout-out to bismarck who posted about this in a comment as well.


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Tuesday, July 03, 2007

A Steaming Loder of Crap

Posted by Lee on 07/03/07 at 10:45 AM

Kurt Loder’s review of Sicko is a thing of beauty.

That last statement is even truer than you’d know from watching “Sicko.” In the case of Canada — which Moore, like many other political activists, holds up as a utopian ideal of benevolent health-care regulation — a very different picture is conveyed by a short 2005 documentary called “Dead Meat,” by Stuart Browning and Blaine Greenberg. These two filmmakers talked to a number of Canadians of a kind that Moore’s movie would have you believe don’t exist:

A 52-year-old woman in Calgary recalls being in severe need of joint-replacement surgery after the cartilage in her knee wore out. She was put on a wait list and wound up waiting 16 months for the surgery. Her pain was so excruciating, she says, that she was prescribed large doses of Oxycontin, and soon became addicted. After finally getting her operation, she was put on another wait list — this time for drug rehab.

A man tells about his mother waiting two years for life-saving cancer surgery — and then twice having her surgical appointments canceled. She was still waiting when she died.

A man in critical need of neck surgery plays a voicemail message from a doctor he’d contacted: “As of today,” she says, “it’s a two-year wait-list to see me for an initial consultation.” Later, when the man and his wife both needed hip-replacement surgery and grew exasperated after spending two years on a waiting list, they finally mortgaged their home and flew to Belgium to have the operations done there, with no more waiting.

Rick Baker, the owner of a Toronto company called Timely Medical Alternatives, specializes in transporting Canadians who don’t want to wait for medical care to Buffalo, New York, two hours away, where they won’t have to. Baker’s business is apparently thriving.

And Dr. Brian Day, now the president of the Canadian Medical Association, muses about the bizarre distortions created by a law that prohibits Canadians from paying for even urgently-needed medical treatments, or from obtaining private health insurance. “It’s legal to buy health insurance for your pets,” Day says, “but illegal to buy health insurance for yourself.” (Even more pointedly, Day was quoted in the Wall Street Journal this week as saying, “This is a country in which dogs can get a hip replacement in under a week and in which humans can wait two to three years.")

But wait, there’s more!


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